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11:00 AM ET 02.26 | By the time the 2012 college football season begins, the sport's administrators will have completed the details on the format that will determine its champion for 2014. The most likely outcome will be a three-game playoff -- a final four of football -- to replace the Bowl Championship Series system. As for determining the final four teams, Pac 12 commissioner Larry Scott said a notion that Roy Kramer, a former Southeastern Conference commissioner, expressed to CBSSports.com last week "resonated with me." To keep the integrity of the regular season and the conference championship games, Kramer said, all of the teams in the playoff should be conference champions.

New York Times

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February 26, 2012  11:07 AM ET

Click on the New York Times link and read the article.

The FN edited version above is a hack job and doesn't come close to communicating the spirit of the article.

February 26, 2012  11:32 AM ET

These are the two comments from the article I liked best.

From his experience in professional tennis, Scott said he found that the more events that were held, the more watered down the product became.

???I hope we can come up with a system that turns the bowl model on its head and improves it,??? Scott said.

The bowls have been controlling long enough!

February 26, 2012  11:50 AM ET

I agree with this:

"Scott said another concern of provosts, presidents and athletic directors is having college football's postseason fit in better with the academic calendar and end closer to Jan 1. They strongly disapprove of the postseason's creeping into the second week in January, especially because many Pac-12 schools start classes a week earlier."

ESPN, CBS & ABC vs. Provosts, Presidents and ADs.

February 26, 2012  12:03 PM ET

Integrity of the regular season? A couple observations:

- 2-loss LSU, including losing its last regular season game, is given a slot in the NCG in 2007.
- Alabama, which lost to LSU in the regular season, is given a rematch in, and wins, the NCG in 2011.

How is the regular season still consider sacrosanct? Plus how often are division races wrapped up a couple weeks ahead of time, giving teams that want to make the playoff the ability to stop focusing on regular season games and turn their attentions to the CCGs? And a strict CCG playoff would allow teams with 3, 4, 5 losses to make the playoff while leaving some 1-loss teams out in the cold. Then people would complain again about how the system is not working.

CCGs and playoffs may not be the best mix. Honestly CCGs might need to go or they might need to redefine how teams make the CCGs. No reason a team that loses 3+ games, mostly OOC, should be allowed into the playoffs just because it won its conf. Especially not if a team with a better overall record and resume is left out because it lost its one game at the wrong time (possibly due to an injury to a star QB or something) and therefore was not even able to play in its CCG.

In 2011 should Bama have made a playoff or 10-3 Clemson? See how the sanctity of the regular season is at odds with using the CCGs to determine playoff participants? Do they plan to have a variable playoff that shrinks or stretches from 2 to 4 teams depending on how many qualified conf champs there are?

February 26, 2012  12:57 PM ET

"To keep the integrity of the regular season and the conference championship games, Kramer said, all of the teams in the playoff should be conference champions."

And that will be the next source of outrage when the first playoffs happen. The best 4 teams, regardless of conference, should be in the playoffs otherwise it's still a sham.

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February 26, 2012  02:06 PM ET

4 best teams that aren't Boise or TCU or any other non-BCS hack. You know, elite teams like the Big East or ACC champion (or 2-loss Notre Dame).

February 26, 2012  03:06 PM ET
QUOTE(#7):

4 best teams that aren't Boise or TCU or any other non-BCS hack. You know, elite teams like the Big East or ACC champion (or 2-loss Notre Dame).

Hey now, Sandy. TCU will be playing in the Big 12 this year so you can take us out of your non-BCS hack catagory. LOL

Now, if we can still field a team that can continue the string of 4 straight 11 or more wins we just might be in the hunt.

February 26, 2012  05:16 PM ET
QUOTE(#7):

4 best teams that aren't Boise or TCU or any other non-BCS hack. You know, elite teams like the Big East or ACC champion (or 2-loss Notre Dame).

Yeah, Arizona State, Old Miss, Minnesota and Kansas are worthy hacks just because of league association.

February 26, 2012  05:52 PM ET

Looks like just another BSC type alternative to keep the smaller schools from being able to challenge the established conference teams, and upset their $ applecart. Shame on the NCAA for keeping teams like Boise State, and TCU on the championship sidelines. Boise's win over Oklahoma a few years must have scared the heck out of the ruling NCAA bigwigs!

February 26, 2012  06:00 PM ET
QUOTE(#5):

"To keep the integrity of the regular season and the conference championship games, Kramer said, all of the teams in the playoff should be conference champions."And that will be the next source of outrage when the first playoffs happen. The best 4 teams, regardless of conference, should be in the playoffs otherwise it's still a sham.

all conferences should consider crowning a champion via a conference championship game. all independents should consider joining a conference (i.e. notre dame.). when it's all said and done the top 4 rated teams would go to the playoff.

February 26, 2012  06:45 PM ET
QUOTE(#11):

When it's all said and done the top 4 rated [conference champs + ND] would go to the playoff.

FIFY

February 26, 2012  06:47 PM ET
QUOTE(#5):

The best 4 teams, regardless of conference, should be in the playoffs otherwise it's still a sham.

Too obvious for the decision makers. Delamey will insist that the Adipose 12 champ ALWAYS be in the mix.

February 26, 2012  06:48 PM ET

of course the fly in the ointment here is if the undefeated #1 team in the country loses it's conference championship game and remains in the top 4. hmmmmmm......

February 26, 2012  06:48 PM ET
QUOTE(#1):

Click on the New York Times link and read the article.The FN edited version above is a hack job and doesn't come close to communicating the spirit of the article.

Best post... for content.

February 26, 2012  06:49 PM ET
QUOTE(#14):

of course the fly in the ointment here is if the undefeated #1 team in the country loses it's conference championship game and remains in the top 4. hmmmmmm......

Too honest, John.

February 26, 2012  06:51 PM ET

Larry's a homer for the PAC, and has calculated to odds that his conference champ will be among the top 4 rated while the "resonating" system lasts.

February 26, 2012  06:52 PM ET
QUOTE(#6):

4 best teams by WHOSE criteria then? I'm sure most of us would have our own criteria for those 4 teams. LOLPeople are gonna beotch no matter what playoff scenario is put into place.

Yeah....some people are going to complain no matter what, but are you supporting the condition that each team be a conference champion?

Ideally, I'd like to see 8 teams in a playoff as there would be little question that the teams deserving of consideration for the championship would be outside that group. I'd be happy with 4 though.

February 26, 2012  08:39 PM ET

Top 4 is plenty for the next few years. The season will matter and being a conference champion will take care of the important thing...building a winning program to compete in the conference you belong.

Now if the SEC wins another 7, then so be it. If Pac-12 wins 7 straight, then they are the new SEC.

Just end the season prior to January 3rd...please. The Orange Bowl has lost money since it moved its game from Jan 1 to Jan 5th...

BTW, no one goes to March Madness games....so do not compare football to basketball again....waste of time and effort. If I am wrong, someone tell me what the "purse" in winning a #1 vs. #64 game is in basketball played in Greensboro, NC??? If it is anywhere near the Rose Bowl payout???

 
February 26, 2012  09:24 PM ET
QUOTE(#4):

Integrity of the regular season? A couple observations:- 2-loss LSU, including losing its last regular season game, is given a slot in the NCG in 2007.- Alabama, which lost to LSU in the regular season, is given a rematch in, and wins, the NCG in 2011.How is the regular season still consider sacrosanct? Plus how often are division races wrapped up a couple weeks ahead of time, giving teams that want to make the playoff the ability to stop focusing on regular season games and turn their attentions to the CCGs? And a strict CCG playoff would allow teams with 3, 4, 5 losses to make the playoff while leaving some 1-loss teams out in the cold. Then people would complain again about how the system is not working.CCGs and playoffs may not be the best mix. Honestly CCGs might need to go or they might need to redefine how teams make the CCGs. No reason a team that loses 3+ games, mostly OOC, should be allowed into the playoffs just because it won its conf. Especially not if a team with a better overall record and resume is left out because it lost its one game at the wrong time (possibly due to an injury to a star QB or something) and therefore was not even able to play in its CCG. In 2011 should Bama have made a playoff or 10-3 Clemson? See how the sanctity of the regular season is at odds with using the CCGs to determine playoff participants? Do they plan to have a variable playoff that shrinks or stretches from 2 to 4 teams depending on how many qualified conf champs there are?

Good post.

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