Basketball transfers out of control?

Anybody recall the "NCAA free agents" thread a couple days ago?

So this guy, needing players, now is compiling his own market of names to peruse, rank, and most likely will contact his top 8-10 or so and see who he can land.


And he says he is concerned that roster turnover is out of control? Dude, you are feeding the monster yourself.

"I want to play college hoops and I want to play NOW!"

Who, the coaches or the players? Or both? Hey, you have schools contacting football coaches before their bowl games. Some scholarship offers are for one year only, most are, then let it be that way or let the recruit decide how many years he wants to commit before signing.
The NCAA and schools want it both ways.

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Originally posted 08:59 AM ET  04.22 by GR=O-6fan

And he says he is concerned that roster turnover is out of control? Dude, you are feeding the monster yourself.

Like Calipari, he is just "playing the game by the rules". ;)

If the kid sits out a year, does he act like a student and go to classes?
I gotta agree with 50yearfan, NCAA wants it both ways with only one year scholarships.

I find it amusing that many try and boil this issue down to a simplistic assumption that goes something like: "the coaches can do it but the player's can't"

Coaches have contracts with provisions that penalize them for leaving before the contract has expired. It costs them plenty $$ to take an offer from another school.

It costs the players and it costs the coaches.

And for the record NCAA prez Mark Emmert is on record saying he is pushing for at least a 3 year commitment from the players AND the schools. So let's stop blaming this all on the big bad NCAA.

Bo Ryan (The Rex Ryan of college hoops) might have something. Once you sign a contract with your school to play ball, you better not ask for a transfer later under penalty of getting run over by an egotistical coach....

So much for the name student athlete. It is all about getting into professional sports.

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Originally posted 12:17 PM ET  04.22 by SpringBreak4Ever

I certainly agree, Dr. Coaches are employees and students are not (well, supposedly anyway). HUGE difference. Should be obvious I would have thought. Guess not.

Using a very simplistic definition....student athletes (such as CFB and CBB players) are being paid by the university. The payment happens to be a "free" education that costs others 30-80k...so, in essence, one could argue that the athlete is indeed an employee of the school....

It is the win at all costs mentality that has shaped college athletics particularly college football and basketball that has created this monster. It 's nothing more than minor league now and no one has the political will to correct it.

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Originally posted 10:50 AM ET  04.22 by Dr. B-f-G

I find it amusing that many try and boil this issue down to a simplistic assumption that goes something like: "the coaches can do it but the player's can't"Coaches have contracts with provisions that penalize them for leaving before the contract has expired. It costs them plenty $$ to take an offer from another school.It costs the players and it costs the coaches.And for the record NCAA prez Mark Emmert is on record saying he is pushing for at least a 3 year commitment from the players AND the schools. So let's stop blaming this all on the big bad NCAA.

Just cause he's pushing for it doesn't mean it's implemented. Therefore, blame the NCAA until they fix it.

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Originally posted 10:50 AM ET  04.22 by Dr. B-f-G

Mark Emmert

You mean the same Mark Emmert that was part of the recruiting and other scandals while president of one of the colleges he now wants to keep control of?

QUOTE(#7):

Originally posted 10:50 AM ET  04.22 by Dr. B-f-G

I find it amusing that many try and boil this issue down to a simplistic assumption that goes something like: "the coaches can do it but the player's can't"Coaches have contracts with provisions that penalize them for leaving before the contract has expired. It costs them plenty $$ to take an offer from another school.It costs the players and it costs the coaches.And for the record NCAA prez Mark Emmert is on record saying he is pushing for at least a 3 year commitment from the players AND the schools. So let's stop blaming this all on the big bad NCAA.

That provision is not in 90% of the coaches contracts. Look a the football coach at Arkansas, he signed on with Weber st, 5 months ago. Now he just walked away to be the interim coach at Arkansas. The ones that do have that provision do not pay it out of their own pocket. The new school or new schools boosters make sure that it is covered in their new contract or appearance fees. Meanwhile the player has to sit out 1 year and sometimes even 2 if the school refuses to release them from scholarship. Thats even if they are 1 year scholarships.

The point is it's too one sided.

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Originally posted 01:01 PM ET  04.22 by SpringBreak4Ever

By your reasoning then, if those schollys made those students "employees, then that would be considered income which would then have to be taxed.POTUS and the donkey party would like to hear that, though! LOL

And therefore as employees they should be free to change jobs as often as they wish.

It is a big decision for an17-18 year old to make. Some need a change. Just ask Larry Bird.