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09:45 AM ET 04.28 | New men's basketball coach Larry Brown has informed Jeremiah Samarrippas, Leslee Smith, Ricmonds Vilde and Eric Norman that they won't have a place on his team, according to a source. The university will place ousted players on academic scholarships to allow them to finish their degrees if they don't want to transfer to continue their playing careers, SMU said Friday.

Dallas Morning News

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April 28, 2012  09:59 AM ET
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The three-paragraph story in the DMN didn't offer any details on Brown's dismissal of these players. No mention of violations of team/University policies, no mention of academic or behavior problems. Just kicked off the team.

From the Saban system, it's called being processed

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April 28, 2012  10:23 AM ET

In a way I like this...as you said, nothing to indicate problems...but if they don't fit the team he wants, then he needs to get the kids he needs.

At least they had the scholarships changed to academic so they don't lose out on that...

Question...if the coach releases the player, and they go to another school, do they still have to sit out a year?

April 28, 2012  10:37 AM ET

Brown should flourish in the college rank because he will not have to deal with overpaid spoiled divas and focusing on instructing young players to play basketball "the right way." who knows? maybe he can bring this team to the NCAA Final Four the same way he did with Kansas in 1988.

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April 28, 2012  10:52 AM ET

Here's a quote from one of the players:

Larry Brown rules with iron fist! Larry Brown means business! Less than a week into his tenure as head coach at SMU, Larry Brown has cut three players from the team, including the team???s starting point guard.

???He basically told me that I wasn???t good enough to play for him,??? Samarrippas said. ??? ???It???s tough for me and it???s tough for my family. I was excited to play with Larry Brown because he???s a Hall of Famer.???

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April 28, 2012  10:58 AM ET
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If there are quality recruits (AAU or whatever) to be had at this late date, why in the ****-in' hell did we stay with only 8 scholarship players in Austin last year?FIRE RICK BARNES !!!!!

Payments offers weren't high enough to the AAU coaches...

April 28, 2012  11:02 AM ET
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College sports has become a cutthroat business, D2, and I get that. But if I were a parent of a student-athlete who had the rug pulled out from under his son in that manner, I'd be incensed.So Brown gets his ringers. I admire his coaching abilities, but his managerial style is too Gordon Gekko for me.And I don't have a knowledgable answer to you question. Anybody?

Not sure about becoming a cut-throat business or not...quite possible....but a coach is hired to win, teach kids about the game and win...as in any business, you are hired to reach a goal be it win the NCAA or become more profitable or whatever....and as a newly hired coach/manager/director/whatever, you need to make sure you have a team around you to help you achieve your goals....it is that way in all walks of live...

It is a shame that these kids didn't work out (as you said earlier, we don't know the whole story here), but they weren't left high and dry...they still have scholarships to complete their education if they want...

And I don't know that much about CBB to have thorough knowledge of AAu or World Wide Wes or any of that...but if a coach can recruit a kid, cleanly, and get them to come to their school, then I don't see the big deal. If the AAU route is so bad, why hasn't the NCAA done something? And don't give me the "it's the NCAA who doesn't do anything" argument...there are some schools who might argue that point, and SMU being one of them. Shady??? Possibly, but then the B1G thinks what Meyer does is shady in stealing recruits....

I'll have to hold judgement on this one until we hear more. I think there are things being left unsaid here...perhaps when he had the first team meeting these kids weren't "respectful" enough for him??? Just don't know

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April 28, 2012  11:10 AM ET
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Not sure about becoming a cut-throat business or not...quite possible....but a coach is hired to win, teach kids about the game and win...as in any business, you are hired to reach a goal be it win the NCAA or become more profitable or whatever....and as a newly hired coach/manager/director/whatever, you need to make sure you have a team around you to help you achieve your goals....it is that way in all walks of live...It is a shame that these kids didn't work out (as you said earlier, we don't know the whole story here), but they weren't left high and dry...they still have scholarships to complete their education if they want...And I don't know that much about CBB to have thorough knowledge of AAu or World Wide Wes or any of that...but if a coach can recruit a kid, cleanly, and get them to come to their school, then I don't see the big deal. If the AAU route is so bad, why hasn't the NCAA done something? And don't give me the "it's the NCAA who doesn't do anything" argument...there are some schools who might argue that point, and SMU being one of them. Shady??? Possibly, but then the B1G thinks what Meyer does is shady in stealing recruits....I'll have to hold judgement on this one until we hear more. I think there are things being left unsaid here...perhaps when he had the first team meeting these kids weren't "respectful" enough for him??? Just don't know

It's no secret SMU held to very high academic requirements for the athletes, similar to Rice and the ivy. These players chose to play at school, and really have few options to try to play elsewhere. They really don't have the skills.

The bad thing is that they made a choice to play and get the education, and now they have to sit and wait a year if they decide to continue that because admin decided to get into the serious, seedy side of college bball.

April 28, 2012  11:10 AM ET
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Kentucky did the same thing, so it is not uncommon, the prior coach did not get the right players the new one wanted, no big deal.

You said that much more pithily than I did....LOL

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April 28, 2012  11:12 AM ET
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Kentucky did the same thing, so it is not uncommon, the prior coach did not get the right players the new one wanted, no big deal.

I think it's bullsheet that you can tell a player he's not good enough, a year after asking him to represent the school in athletics, so adios.

Complete bullsheet.

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