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08:15 AM ET 05.09 | Cole Hamels' self-proclaimed old-school move sure failed to gain 67-year-old Jim Leyland's respect. Leyland believes that [Hamels] should have been suspended 15 games -- at least. Not the five games he got. Leyland doesn't often light into another team's player. In fact, when he was asked a question by a reporter during his pregame media session Monday about Hamels hitting rookie Bryce Harper of the Nationals with a pitch, Leyland refused to comment. But when asked on his pregame show about Hamels' five-game suspension, he made it clear how he feels. "I think five games is way too light," Leyland said. "Personally, if I was making that vote, it would be a 15-game suspension -- at least."

The Detroit News

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May 9, 2012  08:27 AM ET

I would tend to agree.

May 9, 2012  08:38 AM ET

5 games has no effect on a starting pitcher. Even the $400,000 from Hamels's contract won't effect him. What lame excuse of a suspension.

May 9, 2012  08:50 AM ET

That wasn't old school. That was stupid.

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May 9, 2012  09:30 AM ET
QUOTE(#3):

That wasn't old school. That was stupid.

The stupid part was admitting it. If this idiot just kept his mouth shut, he wouldn't have received any type of suspension or fine.

May 9, 2012  09:56 AM ET
QUOTE(#3):

That wasn't old school. That was stupid.

No doubt.

Richard Justice wrote an opinion piece on the subject for MLB.com and the best line was:

If he [Hamels] wanted to teach Harper a thing or two, he should have thrown him a couple of heaters on the black and finished him off with a knee-buckling curveball. Now that would have been old school.

May 9, 2012  10:02 AM ET

Five games is plenty. His honesty was noted. It was interesting to see Hamels set the record straight as to how pitchers really think. The next guy Hamels hits will probably charge the mound and Hammels will say it was unintentional. Who would ever doubt him on his word?

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May 9, 2012  10:13 AM ET

The guy is losing some 400,000+ dollars during the suspension. I think 5 games is more than plenty. It's not like he threw at the guy's head. It was a dumb move, sure and he's got to answer to his own team and fans for that as well.

May 9, 2012  10:19 AM ET

5 games is nothing and probably to light. but $400,000 is a lot no matter who you are, especially since he got nothing in return except for taking one himself to the shin.

plus the $400,000 penalty is not tax deductible so he has to earn about $800,000 to pay the fine. add to that the fact that he probably doesnt have $800,000 lying around in cash so he probably has to sell some "investments" which will have transition costs, fees, commissions, etc. and you can guess that the $400,000 will cost him upwards of a million.

thats a lot of dough to purchase yourself a fastball to the shin.

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May 9, 2012  10:44 AM ET

Are we really sure that is what Mumbles Leyland said?

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May 9, 2012  10:52 AM ET

he's right. also, last year his boy portcello should have bought a suspension for throwing behind Cabrera. don't be a hypocrite. Jimmy pisses and moans a lot.

May 9, 2012  10:55 AM ET

5 Games is Right if he gets into another incident 15 Games!!!

May 9, 2012  11:11 AM ET

he was a dumb arse for admitting it was intentional! everyone knew it was intentional but for some reason he felt the need to tell explain to the media he did it on purpose like he was some kind of ambassador for a mlb welcoming committee.
you send your message and you get on with it. he did not go head hunting the Nats retaliated....its over and done with. Hamels realized that his team was about to get swept by the emerging Nats. Hamels sends the message that this is 'our division'
As far as leyland chiming in.....any manager is going to have a problem with a pitcher who boldly admits to a bean ball. but he understood what was up....no doubt!

May 9, 2012  11:13 AM ET

I know I'm supposed to care what Jim Leyland thinks.

I just can't for the life of me imagine why.

May 9, 2012  12:25 PM ET
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<thanks God that vinnymac is not my accountant>

and why is that?

May 9, 2012  12:26 PM ET
QUOTE(#10):

5 games is nothing and probably to light. but $400,000 is a lot no matter who you are, especially since he got nothing in return except for taking one himself to the shin.plus the $400,000 penalty is not tax deductible so he has to earn about $800,000 to pay the fine. add to that the fact that he probably doesnt have $800,000 lying around in cash so he probably has to sell some "investments" which will have transition costs, fees, commissions, etc. and you can guess that the $400,000 will cost him upwards of a million. thats a lot of dough to purchase yourself a fastball to the shin.

50% tax rate? Seriously? Given Hamels net worth he should have at least a $1million in liquidity.... FYI he mostly likely has a money manager which he pays an annual fee calculated by "basis points" on the amount of money that firms manages for Hamels. Money managers typically don't charge on a per trade/transaction basis rather the annual fee regardless of whether Hamels account has 1 trade a year or 100.

 
May 9, 2012  12:27 PM ET

Been in the game as long as Mr. Grumpy has I'm willing to bet he's told his pitchers to hit someone multiple times. Shut the *ell up!

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