Leyland wanted Hamels out much longer

I would tend to agree.

5 games has no effect on a starting pitcher. Even the $400,000 from Hamels's contract won't effect him. What lame excuse of a suspension.

That wasn't old school. That was stupid.

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Originally posted 08:50 AM ET  05.09 by THE BISHOP!

That wasn't old school. That was stupid.

The stupid part was admitting it. If this idiot just kept his mouth shut, he wouldn't have received any type of suspension or fine.

QUOTE(#3):

Originally posted 08:50 AM ET  05.09 by THE BISHOP!

That wasn't old school. That was stupid.

No doubt.

Richard Justice wrote an opinion piece on the subject for MLB.com and the best line was:

If he [Hamels] wanted to teach Harper a thing or two, he should have thrown him a couple of heaters on the black and finished him off with a knee-buckling curveball. Now that would have been old school.

Five games is plenty. His honesty was noted. It was interesting to see Hamels set the record straight as to how pitchers really think. The next guy Hamels hits will probably charge the mound and Hammels will say it was unintentional. Who would ever doubt him on his word?

The guy is losing some 400,000+ dollars during the suspension. I think 5 games is more than plenty. It's not like he threw at the guy's head. It was a dumb move, sure and he's got to answer to his own team and fans for that as well.

5 games is nothing and probably to light. but $400,000 is a lot no matter who you are, especially since he got nothing in return except for taking one himself to the shin.

plus the $400,000 penalty is not tax deductible so he has to earn about $800,000 to pay the fine. add to that the fact that he probably doesnt have $800,000 lying around in cash so he probably has to sell some "investments" which will have transition costs, fees, commissions, etc. and you can guess that the $400,000 will cost him upwards of a million.

thats a lot of dough to purchase yourself a fastball to the shin.

Are we really sure that is what Mumbles Leyland said?

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Originally posted 10:19 AM ET  05.09 by vinnymac

plus the $400,000 penalty is not tax deductible so he has to earn about $800,000 to pay the fine. add to that the fact that he probably doesnt have $800,000 lying around in cash so he probably has to sell some "investments" which will have transition costs, fees, commissions, etc. and you can guess that the $400,000 will cost him upwards of a million.

<thanks God that vinnymac is not my accountant>

he's right. also, last year his boy portcello should have bought a suspension for throwing behind Cabrera. don't be a hypocrite. Jimmy pisses and moans a lot.

5 Games is Right if he gets into another incident 15 Games!!!

he was a dumb arse for admitting it was intentional! everyone knew it was intentional but for some reason he felt the need to tell explain to the media he did it on purpose like he was some kind of ambassador for a mlb welcoming committee.
you send your message and you get on with it. he did not go head hunting the Nats retaliated....its over and done with. Hamels realized that his team was about to get swept by the emerging Nats. Hamels sends the message that this is 'our division'
As far as leyland chiming in.....any manager is going to have a problem with a pitcher who boldly admits to a bean ball. but he understood what was up....no doubt!

I know I'm supposed to care what Jim Leyland thinks.

I just can't for the life of me imagine why.

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Originally posted 10:46 AM ET  05.09 by The Master Cylinder

<thanks God that vinnymac is not my accountant>

and why is that?

QUOTE(#10):

Originally posted 10:19 AM ET  05.09 by vinnymac

5 games is nothing and probably to light. but $400,000 is a lot no matter who you are, especially since he got nothing in return except for taking one himself to the shin.plus the $400,000 penalty is not tax deductible so he has to earn about $800,000 to pay the fine. add to that the fact that he probably doesnt have $800,000 lying around in cash so he probably has to sell some "investments" which will have transition costs, fees, commissions, etc. and you can guess that the $400,000 will cost him upwards of a million. thats a lot of dough to purchase yourself a fastball to the shin.

50% tax rate? Seriously? Given Hamels net worth he should have at least a $1million in liquidity.... FYI he mostly likely has a money manager which he pays an annual fee calculated by "basis points" on the amount of money that firms manages for Hamels. Money managers typically don't charge on a per trade/transaction basis rather the annual fee regardless of whether Hamels account has 1 trade a year or 100.

Been in the game as long as Mr. Grumpy has I'm willing to bet he's told his pitchers to hit someone multiple times. Shut the *ell up!