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08:17 AM ET 06.11 | Charlie Manuel has a long list of issues, not the least of which are the tens of millions of dollars sitting on the DL. This season was always about hanging in until [Ryan Howard and Chase Utley] returned. That task was made tougher as the injury list grew longer. But the sad truth is that this lost weekend in Baltimore -- two extra-inning losses that left the Phillies eight games behind first-place Washington -- resulted mostly from the regulars failing to do what they're supposed to do. ... [The real problem is] a bullpen full of minor-leaguers. It's a lineup filled with mediocre players. It's the remaining regulars slowly giving in as the season slips away. The real problem is something John Felske or Lee Elia would recognize right away -- a bad baseball team.

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June 11, 2012  08:32 AM ET

Injuries to their best pitcher and best hitter(s) can do that to a team. Age too.

June 11, 2012  08:58 AM ET

It seemed even before the season began that this team was sitting pat with a roster full of aging, sometimes injured stars and mediocre fill-ins (outside of the pitching staff... and who knew that Halliday would choose THIS year to show his age?) and had the potential to struggle. I don't see this situation getting any better, esp. in THIS division.

June 11, 2012  09:24 AM ET

It happens... teams get old, divisions get better, players get hurt...

This team has been streaky since they've been contenders. Fortunately in past years, the rest of the division (save a team or two) has started to completely fall apart by this point. Unfortunately, this year, due to another year with major DL time and a growingly talented and competative division, it's going to be a much higher climb if/when the Phillies decide to start clicking on a positive number of cylinders.

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June 11, 2012  09:40 AM ET

.....same headline from last week....lazy editors....

June 11, 2012  09:50 AM ET

Not to mention the rapid improvement of teams like the Nationals.

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June 11, 2012  09:58 AM ET

I love the excuse train the media is giving the Phillies, every team has injuries during the year, or several players, pitchers or position players having bad enough year to get sent down, or have more than one players hurt, but yet the media cries a tear because they have hurt players and are in last place!! It ain't so easy to stay at the top is it Phillies!!!!! 14 Straight Divisions!!!

June 11, 2012  10:30 AM ET

Uncle Charlie said LAST year we (the NATS) were 3 years away from contending.
THREE (3) years.

Sorry Charlie tricks are for kids...

June 11, 2012  10:58 AM ET

Guess there's only so much that guys like Lee can do. You get old sometimes or just older and before you know it somebody else is taking the prize home.

June 11, 2012  11:42 AM ET

The season isn't over yet...It isn't even the allstar break yet...

June 11, 2012  11:45 AM ET

Outstanding...everyone wants to count the Phills out already. We're not even at the all-star break. Plenty of time for other teams to fall apart. It's not a sprint fellas!

June 11, 2012  11:53 AM ET

They will have to lay out some serious cash in the off season if they want to get better. The nucleus of the team is not going anywhere or is it going to get much better.

June 11, 2012  12:03 PM ET

If I'm a Nats fan, I am still a long way away from being cocky. They haven't won a damn thing yet, and are a young team...which usually means they fade at the end. Again, IF I'm a Nats fan, I'm very worried about Miami, considering they have much more experience.

If my Phillies can get healthy, they can easily make up 8 games, with about 3 weeks worth of great baseball. That's a big IF, though.

June 11, 2012  12:11 PM ET

You can put a lot of blame on Uncle Charlie. When most of the games you loose are 1 run losses then you have to look at team management. Charlie doesn't move the infield in when he should and a ball is hit to the infield which scores the winning run; he doesn't replace the left fielder in the 8th inning and a ball that his replacement would catch scores two runs and gives up the lead; etc.

There is still time - fire Charlie and bring up Sandberg.

June 11, 2012  12:44 PM ET
QUOTE(#10):

Uncle Charlie said LAST year we (the NATS) were 3 years away from contending.THREE (3) years.Sorry Charlie tricks are for kids...

That's "Silly rabbit, Trix are for kids" and "Sorry Charlie, only good tasting tuna get to be star kissed." Gee, I watched way too much TV as a kid.

June 11, 2012  01:10 PM ET

Stop already, The Phils are missing 3 All Stars and hanging tough, it's not going to be as good as last year but if they do what St. Louis did and just make the playoffs, who would you like in a bunch of small series?

June 11, 2012  01:43 PM ET

Cliff Lee hasn't won a game--- he blames "no offense"--- isn't he the 9th batter???

 
June 11, 2012  01:48 PM ET
QUOTE(#12):

The season isn't over yet...It isn't even the allstar break yet...

^^^^^^^
THIS !!!!

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