Schiano's approach may drive some Bucs away

Let the crying begin. Seems like Parcells had problems like this over the years too. If you don't want to work hard for that huge paycheck, you shouldn't play football.

That's why the Bucs have choked down the stretch. Failure to pay attention to the little things.

This team needs "heart" drills...

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Originally posted 09:31 AM ET  06.17 by Otis B. Driftwood

This team needs "heart" drills...

and a few players

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Originally posted 09:49 AM ET  06.17 by Mr Steeler

and a few players

Letting Haynesworth go was a good step in the right direction.

Still can't figure out why they signed his arse...

I don't think buying into any "Program" is gonna help those Bucs.

Funny but I recall way back a new coach for the Vikes named Les Steckle who ran his new team into the ground. The training camp was more a boot camp and pretty much about the start of the season, instead of the team being in tip top shape, they were beat up and beat on often. I think Les lasted one season. The team all but mutinied him.
All too often a new young coach gets the screwy idea that if you beat on these guys long enough they become tough. They have no concept of over-training.

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Originally posted 10:03 AM ET  06.17 by Imma Fubared

Funny but I recall way back a new coach for the Vikes named Les Steckle who ran his new team into the ground. The training camp was more a boot camp and pretty much about the start of the season, instead of the team being in tip top shape, they were beat up and beat on often. I think Les lasted one season. The team all but mutinied him. All too often a new young coach gets the screwy idea that if you beat on these guys long enough they become tough. They have no concept of over-training.

Well, it worked for Joe Gibbs in Washington and for Jimmy Johnson in Dallas. I remember Joe Jacoby saying he couldn't wait to play a real game.

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Originally posted 10:03 AM ET  06.17 by Imma Fubared

Funny but I recall way back a new coach for the Vikes named Les Steckle who ran his new team into the ground. The training camp was more a boot camp and pretty much about the start of the season, instead of the team being in tip top shape, they were beat up and beat on often. I think Les lasted one season. The team all but mutinied him. All too often a new young coach gets the screwy idea that if you beat on these guys long enough they become tough. They have no concept of over-training.

Yes, but the flip side of that coin is that camp is not a country club. New coach comes in and reviews last year's tapes, he finds 2631 blown coverages, 1753 missed tackles, 2150 missed blocks that almost got his QB killed and blew out his RB's knee. So he wants his guys in camp learning their assignments.

Its a sad day when people making an average of 3-4 mil a year complain about fundamentals. You want to **** and moan about some fancy new system some 'genius' is trying to install? Fine. But they are giving you 3-4 mil a year to cover the other teams receiver. Now go and learn your coverages. If that's too difficult for you, there are an army of unemployed players who would love to learn the playbook for 3 million dollars.

He's trying to change a culture that the players favored, obviously there's going to be criticism. Hopefully he remains firm in his methods.

If he holds his ground he should do well, if on the other hand he gives in to pressure, it could be a disaster! It will probably cost him (trade or drop) a couple of players!

If he holds his ground he should do well, if on the other hand he gives in to pressure, it could be a disaster! It will probably cost him (trade or drop) a couple of players!

Get on board for the big win or pack your bags and find another place to play. I like it!

I think it already has, kellon winslow