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08:24 AM ET 06.18 | Swept over the weekend by way of a 6-2 Sunday loss in Toronto, Philadelphia also lost a golden chance to make up some ground on the Nationals. For a team that professes to love its manager, the Phillies have an odd way of showing it. For a team whose core players have praised Charlie Manuel's positive and passive managerial style over the years, they sure seem to be begging their way toward being managed by a guy on the other end of that spectrum with their play this season. Make no mistake: This is not a call for Manuel's managerial head. Just a recognition of what often happens when teams leave runners all over the place, overrun balls and throw them over each other's heads.

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June 18, 2012  08:48 AM ET

Just a recognition of what often happens when teams leave runners all over the place, overrun balls and throw them over each other's heads.

Wait, they're not talking about the Tigers?

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June 18, 2012  09:09 AM ET

To me the manager gets to much credit and to much blame for his team. When you are losing like this some of the veterans on the team have to take charge. It not time for the Phils to throw in the towel just yet with over half of the season left. This article and their fans need to remember that there is an extra wild card team this year and they right in the middle of it.

June 18, 2012  09:10 AM ET
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Just a recognition of what often happens when teams leave runners all over the place, overrun balls and throw them over each other's heads.Wait, they're not talking about the Tigers?

The Tigers are starting to win again.

June 18, 2012  09:12 AM ET
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This is the worst Phillies team in over a decade...pretty sad. Oh well, blow it up and rebuild.

It looks like Cliff Lee is being wasted on this team too. It's pretty sad when your a Hall of Fame pitcher, playing like an all-star, and you have lost 11 straight on your team. Looks like they need a better line up.

June 18, 2012  09:17 AM ET
QUOTE(#1):

This is the worst Phillies team in over a decade...pretty sad. Oh well, blow it up and rebuild.

and evidently they have little to nothing in the minors to build with

June 18, 2012  09:19 AM ET

The phillies are playing like a team that doesn't believe it can win. Their reception coming back home after this abysmal roadtrip should be interesting.

June 18, 2012  09:21 AM ET
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It looks like Cliff Lee is being wasted on this team too. It's pretty sad when your a Hall of Fame pitcher, playing like an all-star, and you have lost 11 straight on your team. Looks like they need a better line up.

Where exactly is the Hall of Famer? Cliff Lee is NO hall of famer. By that measuring stick, half the league is hall of fame material.

He's got 119 wins and a 3.64 ERA in his career. Stick to making fun of the Phils and less time showing off your ignorance.

June 18, 2012  09:26 AM ET

Stick a fork in them.

June 18, 2012  09:37 AM ET

Although the injury bug isn't helping (Utley- 80+ rbi's, and Howard 130+ rbi's per season) The Phils' just seem listless. Defense is poor, The bullpen took the season off and the remaining starting lineup , well who knows. They've lost the drive thats kept the at the top of the division for years. The coach must assume some of the blame but not all of it. This is a problem starting with Ruben Amaro Jr.

June 18, 2012  09:40 AM ET
QUOTE(#10):

Stick a fork in them.

I'm owed royalties for that phrase.

June 18, 2012  09:41 AM ET
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Where exactly is the Hall of Famer? Cliff Lee is NO hall of famer. By that measuring stick, half the league is hall of fame material. He's got 119 wins and a 3.64 ERA in his career. Stick to making fun of the Phils and less time showing off your ignorance.

Kirk Newenhuis is a HoFer.

June 18, 2012  09:41 AM ET

70+ million for Lee, Halladay and Howard for the next several years.

June 18, 2012  09:42 AM ET
QUOTE(#1):

This is the worst Phillies team in over a decade...pretty sad.

Or funny, depending on your perspective.

June 18, 2012  09:44 AM ET
QUOTE(#6):

It looks like Cliff Lee is being wasted on this team too. It's pretty sad when your a Hall of Fame pitcher, playing like an all-star, and you have lost 11 straight on your team. Looks like they need a better line up.

John Tudor approved this message.

June 18, 2012  09:44 AM ET
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I'm owed royalties for that phrase.

Back to back losses, Chi. That's rough. I really feel badly for you.

June 18, 2012  09:44 AM ET
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Where exactly is the Hall of Famer? Cliff Lee is NO hall of famer. By that measuring stick, half the league is hall of fame material. He's got 119 wins and a 3.64 ERA in his career. Stick to making fun of the Phils and less time showing off your ignorance.

Well, gee you know, if Cliff Lee was such a mediocre pitcher, why was he such a hot comodity when he became a free agent after the 2010 season. Even the Yankees cried foul when they lost him to the Phillies. Why did the Rangers trade many of thier players to try to get Cliff Lee in the first place?

June 18, 2012  09:46 AM ET
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Back to back losses, Chi. That's rough. I really feel badly for you.

Funny, I don't.

 
June 18, 2012  09:47 AM ET
QUOTE(#17):

Back to back losses, Chi. That's rough. I really feel badly for you.

Don't. I'm in first, and I beat you.

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