Further legal action against the league?

What? Where did the posts go? OK, they fixed "Documents such as the CBS" so the NFL is in the proper legal framework, but how about our discussion about what should be done with the head of Mr. Goofdell?

I guess Jim Nance and all of his Buddies are going to have to look for work this fall? Too Bad!

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Originally posted 08:54 AM ET  06.21 by Debbie Does

What? Where did the posts go? OK, they fixed "Documents such as the CBS" so the NFL is in the proper legal framework, but how about our discussion about what should be done with the head of Mr. Goofdell?

Guess they weren't too popular

Of course further legal action is on the horizon. The bounty players will continue to scream their innocence even if the Supreme Court sided with the commissioner.

The players signed the CBA, without addressing the Ginger dictators absolute powers, the Steelers were the only team to vote against it, and Ryan Clark tried to warn the other teams it was a bad deal, but they ratified it , so there you go, live with it.

When you're on the field, play honorably, while representing yourself, your team and your city with dignity. Coming from a home with a strong union background, I don't understand how these guys would be willing to seriously injure one of their NFLPA Union Brothers. It's one thing to give it all you got on the filed, but to try and maim someone sufficient to knock them out temporarily or permanently is reprehensible, despicable and un-excusable!!! Brian Urlacher doesn't do that kind of !@#$, Mike Singletary never did that !@#$ either - it's the measure of a man who can stand apart from the crowd by setting the right example. As far as I'm concerned, after reading some transcripts of those bounty recordings, that Williams, Vitt, Vilma, Fuita and the rest of the scumbag crew, be sidelined forever - kick them out of the league Commissioner and set the right example here, as fines are not enough in this case!!!

they will not win because even in the prior cba Goodell had this authority. Plus I'm sick and tired of all these radio hosts decrying Goodell for doing this and also whining about the kickoff being moved back up to the 35, and says it hurt the game, hello before it was moved back to the 30, fo many years the kickoff was form the 35, I just wish whenever they whine and moan they would mention oh yeah for all of about at least 25 years, as I think it was mid-90's that they moved it back to the 30, that the kickoff happened at the 35, but you never hear that mentioned. because they would like to whine and moan how Goodell is ruining the game. The "Punky QB" Jim McMahon actually has a good suggestion take the face-masks off the helmets, then maybe we wouldn't see guys launch themselves and use there helmet as a weapon, but might actually go back to proper tackling

The kickoff line was originally the 40. Them moved it back to the 35 because the kickers got better, and there were too many touchbacks, and it was making the game less exciting. Then, the kickers got even better and they moved it back to the 30 for the same reason. Now, they're moving it up to the 35 again because they want to have more touchbacks, i.e., fewer runbacks. That's the opposite of all the previous reasoning. They are making the game less exciting by doing this, not more.

I really, really hope that special teams will start using the extra 5 yards not to get automatic touchbacks, but to try to get the ball to die inside the 10, just like they do with punts. Make the return guys make that split-second decision of whether to field the ball or hope it rolls into the end zone. Remember, it's a free ball on a kickoff and may be recovered by the kicking team, even if no one on the receiving team touches it.

If teams start doing that, we'll have kickoffs with more contact and more excitement than ever, spoiling Goofdell's plans to remove fun from the game.

Keep the Lawsuits coming- the litigious American way of life

Keep records- stats- rushing yards to the courthouse, instead of wins and loses- read about acquittals and convictions- the MVP will be changed to the MVF- Most valuable felon-

Absolutely, Telsonx - right on. Let them work next to Habib in the convenience store for minimum wage. They both have language barriers anyway. They pooped all over the goose that lays the bullion eggs.

They will keep suing each other until they litigate the NFL out of existence. Then they will look around and wonder what happened.

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Originally posted 11:35 AM ET  06.21 by Telsonx

When you're on the field, play honorably, while representing yourself, your team and your city with dignity. Coming from a home with a strong union background, I don't understand how these guys would be willing to seriously injure one of their NFLPA Union Brothers. It's one thing to give it all you got on the filed, but to try and maim someone sufficient to knock them out temporarily or permanently is reprehensible, despicable and un-excusable!!! Brian Urlacher doesn't do that kind of !@#$, Mike Singletary never did that !@#$ either - it's the measure of a man who can stand apart from the crowd by setting the right example. As far as I'm concerned, after reading some transcripts of those bounty recordings, that Williams, Vitt, Vilma, Fuita and the rest of the scumbag crew, be sidelined forever - kick them out of the league Commissioner and set the right example here, as fines are not enough in this case!!!

+100

While you are praising your Chicago Bears heros, didn't Singletary hit someone so hard he cracked his helmet? Apparently you never saw, nor heard Dick Butkus play and speak about playing football. You might want to dig up some old tape interviews and/or game film. Guys like Butkus, Nitskhie (not sure of the spelling), Ronnie Lott, Jack Tatum, anybody on the 70's Steelers defense make todays players look like sissies.

Honor on the Field! Hip, Hip, Hooray you moron.

Take two players. Same stats, same play time, etc. One of them, without being told, always ends up being able to take out a key player on the opposing team at least once a game. The other never does.

Guess who gets the most money in their contract? Sorry, but players have been getting compensated for their takeouts for decades. But now everyone gets this high and mighty attitude as if it is wrong.

Typical. Very typical. When the NFL turns into one hand touch flag football (can't do two hand tough, that might offend people with only one hand) they will probably also change the uniforms to be ballerina outfits. Sad part is, I'd still watch.....:-(

No matter how you look at it, the NFL is a dirty business. The teams owners know it, the players know it, and Goodell knows it. Over the years, the players have been willing to make a deal with the devil and risk a life time of mental diminishment and physical pain for the glory and money. They know this, the owners know this, and so does the Commissioner.

Truth be spoken, the team owners never have cared much about the players overall being, other than the super star/heros. All that has matter is that there's a butt in every seat at the stadium on Sunday.

Goodell is being very careful not to kill the goose that has laid the golden egg. It's far easier to cut out a couple of tumors than to put the whole league through radiation. No doubt New Orleans was the leading edge to the bounty stuff, but I'm not going to believe for a minute that a lot of other teams did not have a similar concept going on at one time or an other. Especially those that have had any of the Ryan boys or Dad involved.

The league doesn't want to expose informants, nor does it want to put out more information involving numbers other teams. The can't give out all the information/proof, and they aren't going to.

Pro Football is all money, and fear. Fear wins, and all this bounty stuff is about creating and installing fear. Vilma and Co. were only doing what the coaches were pushing them to do.

Goodell's only mistake so far is that he heaped too much of a penalty on Vilma. A year for Payton is nothing -- he can make that up in years to come by coaching. Not so for Vilma. He will never recover from losing a year at this point.

#15 Foghorn, your right on the money with the Owners, the Issue I have is with the Union, they have done nothing but make it a hangout for former players and interested in one thing only MONEY, not one WORD on SAFETY, or protection of their only commodity THE PLAYERS. No demands for new safety gear, no tests for illegal drugs that might be responsible for a Death, no restrictions on visitors to the locker room, no mandatory time off for concussions or other major injuries, only MONEY ISSUES, they can use a Marvin Miller, the Union should state if these guys who went after other union members in an organized fashion are found Guilty, the will be barred from getting back into the Union after they serve whatever penalty the get from the League! Sounds like BS but, all they do is lay on there belly and wait for Jerry Sandusky to walk in the Room. Too Bad Red Dorfman's not around he would teach them all about Unions and there place in History!

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Originally posted 04:43 PM ET  06.21 by Jalanbisma

While you are praising your Chicago Bears heros, didn't Singletary hit someone so hard he cracked his helmet? Apparently you never saw, nor heard Dick Butkus play and speak about playing football. You might want to dig up some old tape interviews and/or game film. Guys like Butkus, Nitskhie (not sure of the spelling), Ronnie Lott, Jack Tatum, anybody on the 70's Steelers defense make todays players look like sissies. Honor on the Field! Hip, Hip, Hooray you moron.

There is only one moron here.It is you!

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Originally posted 06:19 PM ET  06.21 by Foghorn Leghorn

No matter how you look at it, the NFL is a dirty business. The teams owners know it, the players know it, and Goodell knows it. Over the years, the players have been willing to make a deal with the devil and risk a life time of mental diminishment and physical pain for the glory and money. They know this, the owners know this, and so does the Commissioner. Truth be spoken, the team owners never have cared much about the players overall being, other than the super star/heros. All that has matter is that there's a butt in every seat at the stadium on Sunday.Goodell is being very careful not to kill the goose that has laid the golden egg. It's far easier to cut out a couple of tumors than to put the whole league through radiation. No doubt New Orleans was the leading edge to the bounty stuff, but I'm not going to believe for a minute that a lot of other teams did not have a similar concept going on at one time or an other. Especially those that have had any of the Ryan boys or Dad involved.The league doesn't want to expose informants, nor does it want to put out more information involving numbers other teams. The can't give out all the information/proof, and they aren't going to.Pro Football is all money, and fear. Fear wins, and all this bounty stuff is about creating and installing fear. Vilma and Co. were only doing what the coaches were pushing them to do. Goodell's only mistake so far is that he heaped too much of a penalty on Vilma. A year for Payton is nothing -- he can make that up in years to come by coaching. Not so for Vilma. He will never recover from losing a year at this point.

We won't miss Jonathan Vilma a bit when we have far superior talent in the NFL such as Patrick Willis to watch who can play competitively and cleanly within the rules of the league.Vilma should quit his bellyaching.He got exactly what he deserved along with his teammates and Saints Coach Payton

Not this guy again.....Goodell

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Originally posted 09:26 PM ET  06.21 by redman01

We won't miss Jonathan Vilma a bit when we have far superior talent in the NFL such as Patrick Willis to watch who can play competitively and cleanly within the rules of the league.Vilma should quit his bellyaching.He got exactly what he deserved along with his teammates and Saints Coach Payton

I'm a BIG Patrick Willis fan. But the difference here between the two is the coaches they have. What Vilma did was wrong, but it was a direct reflection of what his coaches wanted and coached. He was a pawn.

Vilma deserves to be punished, but in relationship to what the others got, especially Payton who in my mind is a scum bucket of the first order, he got hit much harder than he should have.

Four to six weeks would have served well.