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08:21 AM ET 06.22 | Mt. Ortiz erupted Thursday when Big Papi said, among other things, that the Red Sox were starting to "become the [expletive]hole it used to be." The Red Sox asked for this. The moment they hired Bobby Valentine as manager, they rolled out the red carpet for drama, spread it across Yawkey Way and pointed it straight toward their clubhouse. So, when [Ortiz] lamented that drama Thursday, complaining about recent media portrayals of the club, he actually should have directed his complaints at the people who hired Valentine: the Red Sox's owners. ... This is what ownership wanted -- the anti-Francona. A manager who plays divide-and-conquer, even with reporters.

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June 22, 2012 08:29 AM ET

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SO - they are to blame because of the manager they selected - WHICH IS NOT WHAT ORTIZ SAID. He said the Media is to blame. Way to deflect.....

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June 22, 2012 08:30 AM ET

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Keep this guy happy. He's the best hitter on the club.

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June 22, 2012 08:30 AM ET

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FOX Sports ... the new Boston Globe ... gotta' love it

jctoo, cult elitist

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June 22, 2012 08:31 AM ET

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Originally posted 08:29 AM ET 06.22 by Lex-LOU-thor

SO - they are to blame because of the manager they selected - WHICH IS NOT WHAT ORTIZ SAID. He said the Media is to blame. Way to deflect.....

Mornin' Lou.

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June 22, 2012 08:31 AM ET

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Originally posted 08:31 AM ET 06.22 by SoxFan15

Mornin' Lou.

yo!

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June 22, 2012 08:33 AM ET

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Wow.....glad I don't have to worry about THIS kind of drama....you know, being a Royals fan. WHEW!

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June 22, 2012 08:34 AM ET

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Originally posted 08:33 AM ET 06.22 by Catwoman

My thoughts exactly.

um ... wow ...

nice avatar ... :)

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June 22, 2012 08:35 AM ET

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morning cat and jc

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June 22, 2012 08:35 AM ET

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Originally posted 08:34 AM ET 06.22 by Catwoman

That may show up twice.

I have one out in FN cyber land too ...

Lou ... if it shows up later and I'm not around ... lol

jctoo, cult elitist

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June 22, 2012 08:35 AM ET

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It is not Bobby V. The fact is that the team has finished third the last two years under Francona and they are in 4th today. That, more than anything, is why the franchise is the "the **** hole it used to be". The pitching has simply not been good enough. But win some series against the Yankees and Rangers, and watch the toxicity melt away.