Would Dallas shop its captain to land Doan?

I could see Doan considering it since Dallas would be a shorter move then Quebec City

Dallas needs a LOT more than Shane Doan. They've needed to go into full-scale rebuild mode since Richards left, and they haven't. And frankly, they could've gotten more for Ribeiro.

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Originally posted 08:47 AM ET  06.28 by dannylimes

...And frankly, they could've gotten more for Ribeiro.

Dunno, Danny. What is the going price for a one year rental?

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Originally posted 08:47 AM ET  06.28 by dannylimes

Dallas needs a LOT more than Shane Doan. They've needed to go into full-scale rebuild mode since Richards left, and they haven't....

And - you're right. We need a LOT more than Doan.

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Originally posted 08:53 AM ET  06.28 by Otis B. Driftwood

Dunno, Danny. What is the going price for a one year rental?

If you can re-sign him at 4ish per, he's still worth it. The guy is going to put up 60-75 pts per season, about the same a certain former Leaf captain recently named to the Hall usually put up annually in his playing days.

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Originally posted 08:54 AM ET  06.28 by Otis B. Driftwood

And - you're right. We need a LOT more than Doan.

The Stars really should've gotten what they could for everything on their roster and start over. But, with the ownership issue and everything, who would want to buy a hockey team in Texas that finished in last place? Still hope they work a way into contention again. Seeing Bob Gainey on the stand for them at the draft was a little worrisome though...

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Originally posted 09:00 AM ET  06.28 by dannylimes

The Stars really should've gotten what they could for everything on their roster and start over. But, with the ownership issue and everything, who would want to buy a hockey team in Texas that finished in last place? Still hope they work a way into contention again. Seeing Bob Gainey on the stand for them at the draft was a little worrisome though...

The damn shame is that they were sitting pretty in the West before the wheels flew off in the last month. There is a lot of youth on the team... and some nice youth at that (Erickson, Benn, Gologowski...).

But - we can't score... and our power play was abysmal (damn near historically so). We relied on Lehtonen too much to pull out victories. Our top two lines were average at best even with Ribeiro. Moving him allows Benn to play more. That is critical - he is the best player on the team but was nowhere near top minutes on the team.

As far as buying a team in Texas... they are the lynchpin for hockey down here. Youth hockey has taken off as an incredible rate. The sheets of ice in D/FW are open damn near 24/7. And... as we fans proved in the second half of the season when they were in the hunt - we will sell the shed full if they put a team out there worth rooting for.

everytime I see the Stars, I still picture them in Minnesota

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Originally posted 08:47 AM ET  06.28 by dannylimes

Dallas needs a LOT more than Shane Doan. They've needed to go into full-scale rebuild mode since Richards left, and they haven't. And frankly, they could've gotten more for Ribeiro.

You don't rebuild a club around a 36 yr old who has only played for one franchise his entire career and has maybe a couple of good years left.

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Originally posted 09:15 AM ET  06.28 by Otis B. Driftwood

The damn shame is that they were sitting pretty in the West before the wheels flew off in the last month. There is a lot of youth on the team... and some nice youth at that (Erickson, Benn, Gologowski...). But - we can't score... and our power play was abysmal (damn near historically so). We relied on Lehtonen too much to pull out victories. Our top two lines were average at best even with Ribeiro. Moving him allows Benn to play more. That is critical - he is the best player on the team but was nowhere near top minutes on the team. As far as buying a team in Texas... they are the lynchpin for hockey down here. Youth hockey has taken off as an incredible rate. The sheets of ice in D/FW are open damn near 24/7. And... as we fans proved in the second half of the season when they were in the hunt - we will sell the shed full if they put a team out there worth rooting for.

You look at the past few years, and they have offloaded Richards, Neal and now Ribeiro. That's half of an excellent top six. You're right about Loui and Jamie Benn, and they did get Goligoski in return for Neal, but man i've seldom heard of a team shedding 50% of their top six and remaining a contender. The reality of it was a rethink from the ground up. Maybe they can indeed find the pieces they need, and get back to regular postseason play. I do think Benn does benefit from Ribeiro's departure. But the race last season showed just how tough it is to keep up in the West, and having to break your back just to make the playoffs isn't a pretty way to run things. Not everybody is as deep as LA.

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Originally posted 09:18 AM ET  06.28 by THE BISHOP!

You don't rebuild a club around a 36 yr old who has only played for one franchise his entire career and has maybe a couple of good years left.

Exactly. And if you're Shane Doan, wouldn't you want to jump into a more comfortable situation? A signing like that would put a LOT of pressure on him to help make the offs, regardless of location.

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Originally posted 09:18 AM ET  06.28 by THE BISHOP!

You don't rebuild a club around a 36 yr old who has only played for one franchise his entire career and has maybe a couple of good years left.

If I'm Doan, I would either stay with the same franchise or go somewhere I would have a shot at the cup.

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Originally posted 09:28 AM ET  06.28 by drysdale

If I'm Doan, I would either stay with the same franchise or go somewhere I would have a shot at the cup.

Depends if Mrs. Doan will let him leave the state of AZ...and I would rather have Morrow on my team instead of Doan.

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Originally posted 08:54 AM ET  06.28 by Otis B. Driftwood

And - you're right. We need a LOT more than Doan.

but they have to start somewhere, and I suppose a bit of leadership isn't the worst way to start?

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Originally posted 09:40 AM ET  06.28 by Spiny Norman

but they have to start somewhere, and I suppose a bit of leadership isn't the worst way to start?

I'll say this for Morrow... he's a hell of a leader. But the reality is that he is really beat up at this point of his career. I just don't know how effective he can be on IR.

I'm not sure that Doan improves that...

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Originally posted 08:58 AM ET  06.28 by dannylimes

If you can re-sign him at 4ish per, he's still worth it. The guy is going to put up 60-75 pts per season, about the same a certain former Leaf captain recently named to the Hall usually put up annually in his playing days.

Gotta say Danny... no chance he should have gone in to the Hall instead of Shanny...that one really shocked me

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Originally posted 09:40 AM ET  06.28 by Spiny Norman

but they have to start somewhere, and I suppose a bit of leadership isn't the worst way to start?

And Doan probably would stop opposing coaches from using their walkway to the locker rooms ;)

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Originally posted 10:07 AM ET  06.28 by Nobody expects Phantomphan MMT

And Doan probably would stop opposing coaches from using their walkway to the locker rooms ;)

and he has an awesome takedown move on faceoffs

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Originally posted 09:24 AM ET  06.28 by dannylimes

You look at the past few years, and they have offloaded Richards, Neal and now Ribeiro. That's half of an excellent top six. You're right about Loui and Jamie Benn, and they did get Goligoski in return for Neal, but man i've seldom heard of a team shedding 50% of their top six and remaining a contender. The reality of it was a rethink from the ground up. Maybe they can indeed find the pieces they need, and get back to regular postseason play. I do think Benn does benefit from Ribeiro's departure. But the race last season showed just how tough it is to keep up in the West, and having to break your back just to make the playoffs isn't a pretty way to run things. Not everybody is as deep as LA.

Danny...L.A finished 8th. So isn't that kind of like, breaking your back to get into the post season?

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Originally posted 09:25 AM ET  06.28 by dannylimes

Exactly. And if you're Shane Doan, wouldn't you want to jump into a more comfortable situation? A signing like that would put a LOT of pressure on him to help make the offs, regardless of location.

I'd think that if he does move...it would be to a top contender.