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Reds eyeing two Phillies leadoff hitters

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08:15 AM ET 07.18 | The numbers don't lie in Cincinnati, where the Reds' leadoff hitters rank last in the major leagues with an on-base percentage under .250. Any guesses what the Reds' top priority is on this month's trade market? It's not a trick question. The Reds badly need a leadoff hitter, and that's what they're looking for. Two names that have been discussed: Shane Victorino and Juan Pierre of the Phillies. Victorino is likely to be dealt this month, and the Phillies could find a decent market for him. Besides the Reds, he's also a decent fit for the Yankees and Dodgers, among others. Even in a subpar season, Victorino has a .316 on-base percentage. ... Pierre has a .354 on-base percentage this season.

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July 18, 2012  08:27 AM ET

Reds are buyers, phillies are sellers... Now there is something you do not see very often in baseball.

July 18, 2012  08:28 AM ET

Pierre could be a cheap upgrade that could work in Cinci. Their leadoff spot has been hopeless.

July 18, 2012  08:34 AM ET

I have yet to see a Ballgame with 2 leadoff hitters batting at the same time, interesting, maybe someone should Tell Manuel?

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July 18, 2012  09:41 AM ET

They could bring up their stud Hamilton from Double A, but he is stolen bases are down since he is hitting a light .240.

July 18, 2012  10:07 AM ET

We don't need 'em. But time will tell.

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July 18, 2012  11:19 AM ET

We do need a decent lead-off hitter in cincy but I hope they don't give up to much for him.

July 18, 2012  12:02 PM ET
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We don't need 'em. But time will tell.

yes--strange article. Yankees are set in right and center; in left they have Ibanez/Jones to provide pop, and Gardner coming off the DL to give a singles-hitting option. And using Jeter in leadoff seems to be generating plenty of runs. LA has an aging, high-OBP leftfielder in Abreu, doesn't need another--needs 1b, 3b, or SS. What was CBS thinking?

July 18, 2012  01:19 PM ET
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I have yet to see a Ballgame with 2 leadoff hitters batting at the same time, interesting, maybe someone should Tell Manuel?

Bassed on the Phillys offense I wasn't aware they had any hitters, let alone lead off hitters.

July 18, 2012  01:32 PM ET
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Bassed on the Phillys offense I wasn't aware they had any hitters, let alone lead off hitters.

Check the stats again... Phillies actually haven't been doing bad offensively this year. They're at least middle of the pack in most offensive team stat categories... But most people in Philly wouldn't see that, because they see nothing other than the fact that they're in last place...

On a side note, PLEASE take Victorino...

July 18, 2012  01:35 PM ET
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I have yet to see a Ballgame with 2 leadoff hitters batting at the same time, interesting, maybe someone should Tell Manuel?

Its funny (and unfortunate), because besides a handfull of games, Rollins has led off all year, like always. And, Pierre isn't even batting in the top 3. He's hitting # 8 if the full starting lineup is in the game...

Cincy is welcome to Rollins too, if they want him.

July 18, 2012  01:55 PM ET
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Its funny (and unfortunate), because besides a handfull of games, Rollins has led off all year, like always. And, Pierre isn't even batting in the top 3. He's hitting # 8 if the full starting lineup is in the game...Cincy is welcome to Rollins too, if they want him.

Rollins would be outstanding in Cincy or LA, the Phillies seem to have deflated this year, similar to the Red Sox, The Angels on the other hand got rid of a veteran or two and put themselves back in the thick of it! I can remember sitting in a Businss Class in College, everyone in the room thought this professor was nuts he was a Hyper Type of guy, he woke us all up when he said the two most difficult accomplishments in life are success and failure, he went on to say, people who are successful having difficulty dealing with failure, their so successful they don't know how to fail, they keep looking for ways to be successful, people who have been failures don't know how to deal with success, they look to find a way to fail!

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July 21, 2012  11:47 PM ET

Very hard to find a good leadoff guy thats going to come in and make an immediate impact. Pierre and Victorino aren't the guys to get. And the Reds would have to give up too much to get a serious threat. Weather the storm until Votto returns. Pitching has been the strength all year and it will have to be during this time when the Reds have a soft schedule. And when he returns.......put Votto at leadoff. Best hitter in the game and best eyes in the game. As dumb as some of the lineups Dusty Baker has thrown out there I'm surprised he hasn't tried this one yet.

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July 22, 2012  07:55 PM ET
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I agree about Pierre and Victorino being past their prime, but making Votto a leadoff hitter would be an inexcusably and unexplainably foolish move by Baker.You just don't take the best cleanup bitter in baseball and force him to hit in situations where nobody is on base.

First of all.....I'm not saying putting Votto at leadoff is necessarily the best idea. And secondly, Votto is not the cleanup hitter in the Reds lineup. He bats third. Phillips is cleanup usually. And the reason I did make a suggestion about Votto as a leadoff is becuase that is basically what he is already. Look at the productivity of the guys who hit in front of him i.e. Stubbs and Cozart. These guys do not get on base enough. Just imagine what Votto's numbers would look like if he had guys on base in front of him. That is why he has so many walks. Nobody on when he comes to the plate. Votto basically is the leadoff hitter already. Batting in the first inning with no one on but with 2 outs.

 
July 24, 2012  08:06 AM ET

I just hope the Reds don't dismantle their starting pitching (or Chapman) for this trade.

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