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Flyers owner's pursuit of Weber diabolical?

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10:01 AM ET 07.22 | As much as the Flyers' bonus-laden, front-loaded $110 million offer to Shea Weber was a righteous one, team chairman Ed Snider's role in all this is as diabolical as they come, given his role as a notable hawk in the current labor negotiations. For at the same time "Mr. Snider" authorized this offer to Weber, he is wholly supportive of the league effort to discount all but initial $13 million of the deal by nearly 25 percent. Here is "Mr. Snider" agreeing to pay Weber $52 million in signing bonuses within the next three calendar years while engaged in an effort to prevent players from receiving even a nickel in signing bonuses going forward. Here is "Mr. Snider" using his financial might to bulk up the Flyers while at the same time pledging to bankroll a lockout in order to stop the competition from ever doing this again. For you see, Snider's NBC/Comcast television contract with the NHL calls for the network to pay the league in full for this season -- believed between $150 million and $160 million -- even if 2012-13 is canceled in full.

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July 22, 2012  10:29 AM ET

It's like biting off your nose to spite your faces.

July 22, 2012  10:38 AM ET

Don't do what I do, do as I say. Something like that.

July 22, 2012  10:53 AM ET

Can't blame a guy for trying...I guess?

July 22, 2012  11:00 AM ET

This isn't owners vs players, its owners vs owners. Big market vs small market. The revenue sharing they have is a joke. So they have to decide. Do you want the market to be like baseball (the haves and have nots) or do you want it to be like football (actual parity). It's up to the owners to decide. It's just funny that the league is asking for the players to give up stuff because they can't govern themselves.

July 22, 2012  11:05 AM ET
QUOTE(#4):

This isn't owners vs players, its owners vs owners. Big market vs small market. The revenue sharing they have is a joke. So they have to decide. Do you want the market to be like baseball (the haves and have nots) or do you want it to be like football (actual parity). It's up to the owners to decide. It's just funny that the league is asking for the players to give up stuff because they can't govern themselves.

And I find it hilarious how quickly the owners lost the goodwill they (supposedly) gained from the last lockout, when fans in general were in agreement that they were the righteous party. I think people are looking at this and prepared to place the blame squarely on the shoulders of the millie and billionaires who own the teams, crying poor while spending ridiculous money on mediocre players.

July 22, 2012  11:07 AM ET
QUOTE(#2):

Don't do what I do, do as I say. Something like that.

If there is one human being in hockey who is guilty of this, it is Snider.

July 22, 2012  12:18 PM ET

so "Mr. Snider" signs Weber to a bonus laden contract that could cripple a small market team like Nashville knowing that his TV agreement with the league will more than cover the total amount of the contract while at the same time fighting against such contracts to be presented in the first place. So what we may end up with is teams like Florida, Nashville, Phoenix and Columbus potentially folding some day because they can't compete with teams like the Flyers and the Rangers who can circumvent the cap with bonus laden contracts with no repercussions. Sure there is more parity now than before the initial CBA but the big money owners still run the game while the league cries poor.

July 22, 2012  12:23 PM ET

Flyers owner's pursuit of Weber diabolical?

No. But .... it would be if it was New Jersey. :-)

July 22, 2012  12:41 PM ET

....even if 2012-13 is canceled in full. Will DirecTV give me my money back.

July 22, 2012  01:01 PM ET

Every other owner (except maybe Minnesota's and his $200 million commitments to Parise and Suter) has to be seriously P.O.'d right now. This is why the NHL can't have nice things.

July 22, 2012  01:04 PM ET
QUOTE(#4):

This isn't owners vs players, its owners vs owners. Big market vs small market. The revenue sharing they have is a joke. So they have to decide. Do you want the market to be like baseball (the haves and have nots) or do you want it to be like football (actual parity). It's up to the owners to decide. It's just funny that the league is asking for the players to give up stuff because they can't govern themselves.

Spot on assessment. The only thing missing from the equation is that a return to the have-vs-have-not days of hockey means a return to teams employing full trapping systems and a lot of 1-0 games. Because when you can't afford marquis players because the deep-pockets teams can easily out pay you, you field a team of average talent, and win by clogging the ice.

So for the fans of Detroit, New York, Philadelphia, and the other markets that can spend, spend, spend and think they should be able to...is this the kind of hockey you want to return to?

July 22, 2012  01:06 PM ET

"We must stop this madness......after i do this"

July 22, 2012  02:10 PM ET
QUOTE(#4):

This isn't owners vs players, its owners vs owners. Big market vs small market. The revenue sharing they have is a joke. So they have to decide. Do you want the market to be like baseball (the haves and have nots) or do you want it to be like football (actual parity). It's up to the owners to decide. It's just funny that the league is asking for the players to give up stuff because they can't govern themselves.

Exactly. And this is why there has to be a cap and other restrictions so that one team can't go out and buy up all of the talent. Hockey is fairly even as it stands now. The only teams that are perennial cellar dwellers are teams that have bad management. (Insert obvious examples here.)

July 22, 2012  02:25 PM ET
QUOTE(#7):

So what we may end up with is teams like Florida, Nashville, Phoenix and Columbus potentially folding some day because they can't compete with teams like the Flyers and the Rangers who can circumvent the cap with bonus laden contracts with no repercussions. Sure there is more parity now than before the initial CBA but the big money owners still run the game while the league cries poor.

It's funny that the sport that's figured this out the best is also the one with the most money (football). Hockey needs to get its act together. The big teams really don't seem to care about the small ones.

July 22, 2012  02:28 PM ET

The NHL and the mighty midget should void the deal right now and halt any further player negotiations until the new CBA is approved. This is really a joke.

July 22, 2012  02:31 PM ET

(Insert obvious examples here.)

You don't mean that city in Canada, on the lake, that wears blue? Hmmmm.

July 22, 2012  02:37 PM ET
QUOTE(#16):

(Insert obvious examples here.)You don't mean that city in Canada, on the lake, that wears blue? Hmmmm.

Are you talking to myselves again??

July 22, 2012  02:57 PM ET
QUOTE(#12):

"We must stop this madness......after i do this"

LMAO.

July 22, 2012  03:07 PM ET
QUOTE(#10):

Every other owner (except maybe Minnesota's and his $200 million commitments to Parise and Suter) has to be seriously P.O.'d right now. This is why the NHL can't have nice things.

Don't forget that's the same owner that used to run Nashville. It's funny how cheap he was back then versus this offseason.

 
July 22, 2012  04:58 PM ET

drips of jealousy

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