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Why the Browns four wins were deceiving

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08:00 AM ET 07.25 | Sympathetic Browns fans point to the team's defense ranking among the top 10 in total yards allowed, numbers that may be deceiving. [Opponents' total offensive yards] were often diminished because teams led the Browns on the scoreboard and milked the clock. ... [The] Browns' four wins last year were all over teams struggling at the time, and with each team hampered by quarterback problems. Cleveland's 2011 wins: 27-19 at Indianapolis with Colts' quarterback Kerry Collins brought out of retirement because of Peyton Manning's neck injury; 17-16 over Miami and mediocre Dolphins' QB Chad Henne; 6-3 over Seattle and Seahawks' backup QB Charlie Whitehurst; 14-10 over Jacksonville and the Jaguars' struggling rookie QB, Blaine Gabbert.

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Mike Holmgren, Getty Images Mike Holmgren, Getty Images
July 25, 2012  08:06 AM ET

'stats are for losers' - case in point.

July 25, 2012  08:07 AM ET

"You are what your record says you are."

- Bill Parcells

July 25, 2012  08:09 AM ET

Deceiving ?

What they're actually worse than that ?

July 25, 2012  08:14 AM ET

Other than that, things are looking pretty sweet.

July 25, 2012  08:18 AM ET

Things are looking down for The Browns!

July 25, 2012  08:40 AM ET

Like the folks at Kentucky and Mississippi State who play football in the mighty SEC, Browns fans can bask in the glories of the Steelers and Raens and say: "Go AFC North!"

July 25, 2012  08:45 AM ET
QUOTE(#6):

Like the folks at Kentucky and Mississippi State who play football in the mighty SEC, Browns fans can bask in the glories of the Steelers and Raens and say: "Go AFC North!"

I think you're thinking about Ole Miss... Not Mississippi State.

July 25, 2012  08:47 AM ET

The 4 wins were deceiving; just how bad were they?

July 25, 2012  08:47 AM ET

Mississippi State leads the Nation in longest tenure of consecutive Bowl Victories.


-Joe Mammy

July 25, 2012  08:47 AM ET
QUOTE(#3):

Deceiving ? What they're actually worse than that ?

That's what I thought when I read the headline. I was pretty surprised that the article agreed with us.

July 25, 2012  08:52 AM ET
QUOTE(#10):

That's what I thought when I read the headline. I was pretty surprised that the article agreed with us.

Word... I must admit... I haven't actually read one of these Browns articles, ever.

July 25, 2012  08:52 AM ET

Can we zoom out on that picture of Mike Holmgren? I wanna see if there's a salt shaker on the table in front of him.

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July 25, 2012  09:54 AM ET
QUOTE(#3):

Deceiving ?What they're actually worse than that ?

Yes!!! Keep Mike Holmgren around and they will be worse this year!!!!

July 25, 2012  09:57 AM ET
QUOTE(#1):

'stats are for losers' - case in point.

Disagree. Stats help to tell the story, but they don't tell the whole story. I think only two of the four wins mentioned here were gimmes, but not the other two. And BTW, a perfect game in baseball against a cellar-team is still a perfect game and the performance of the winning team and pitcher matter, not the record of the loser. So, in that vein, a win for Cleveland was a win for Cleveland.

July 25, 2012  09:57 AM ET
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Can we zoom out on that picture of Mike Holmgren? I wanna see if there's a salt shaker on the table in front of him.

LOL, that's good!!!!

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July 25, 2012  10:11 AM ET
QUOTE(#12):

Can we zoom out on that picture of Mike Holmgren? I wanna see if there's a salt shaker on the table in front of him.

Probably more like a milkshake

 
July 25, 2012  10:13 AM ET

They seem to be choking on the "Mike Holmgren knows how to be a GM" kool-aid

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