D-Backs swinging for blockbuster trade

We've all heard the Mariners say this before, but with Hernandez, they seem to be sticking to their guns. As for Lee, seems a bit "overpriced" at the moment, but maybe a change of scenery would do him good. Just a thought.

I'll be glad when the deadline passes and the players can get back to playing and not having to wonder who's next. There hasn't been the huge deals like in the past so the media are just putting things out there and hoping for the best.

Yesterday's thread boy Beckett might fit the bill for the D-backs.....just sayin....

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Originally posted 09:05 AM ET  07.31 by Sgt. Schultz

Yesterday's thread boy Beckett might fit the bill for the D-backs.....just sayin....

Anywhere but Boston.

If The Mariners trade Hernandez, they will make Mike Golic look like a Genius!!!

Felix for Upton would be a major trade. The Mariners need something, but I'm not sure if that is it. I think it would be a great deal for Arizona.

Beckett and Kalish (and maybe other parts) for Upton might make some sense. Perhaps Boston can entice the Snakes to toss in one of their young pitchers such as Bauer. How, I don't know, but that would be sweet for the Sox. Doubtful.

Today could be interesting.

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Originally posted 10:40 AM ET  07.31 by ...the best policy

Felix for Upton would be a major trade. The Mariners need something, but I'm not sure if that is it. I think it would be a great deal for Arizona.Beckett and Kalish (and maybe other parts) for Upton might make some sense. Perhaps Boston can entice the Snakes to toss in one of their young pitchers such as Bauer. How, I don't know, but that would be sweet for the Sox. Doubtful.Today could be interesting.

Youre dreaming if you think youre gonna get Upton and Bauer for the Sox's garbage.

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Originally posted 08:39 AM ET  07.31 by Mongo Alex

I'll be glad when the deadline passes and the players can get back to playing and not having to wonder who's next. There hasn't been the huge deals like in the past so the media are just putting things out there and hoping for the best.

Trades can still be made after the deadline, the only difference is that the players have to pass through waivers.

Felix is ours and you can't have him.

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Originally posted 10:40 AM ET  07.31 by ...the best policy

Felix for Upton would be a major trade. The Mariners need something, but I'm not sure if that is it. I think it would be a great deal for Arizona.Beckett and Kalish (and maybe other parts) for Upton might make some sense. Perhaps Boston can entice the Snakes to toss in one of their young pitchers such as Bauer. How, I don't know, but that would be sweet for the Sox. Doubtful.Today could be interesting.

I think Upton is over-rated by D'backs fans, and consequently the team has to ask for more than he is worth to avoid irritating them. But you are right, Upton and a prospect for Beckett and Kalish is about the right amount.

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Originally posted 08:35 AM ET  07.31 by Blood Red

We've all heard the Mariners say this before, but with Hernandez, they seem to be sticking to their guns. As for Lee, seems a bit "overpriced" at the moment, but maybe a change of scenery would do him good. Just a thought.

I don't recall hearing them say that someone was untouchable, and then trading them. Griffey and ARod took one look at Safeco field and announced they were headed to free agency, don't even bother to make an offer. ARod went free to free-agency; Griffey essentially negotiated a deal with the Reds for Mike Cameron, told the M's they could take it or he would walk too. They took it. Randy Johnson--he wouldn't sign, so they traded him at the deadline for whatever they could get. That is probably the way Felix will leave, too--if they can't sign him, trade him at the deadline in his final year.

Seattle fans are a bit touch about ownership using their team to develop players, then sell them for cash and suspects--cash goes into the owners pockets, suspects go into the farm system, neither are seen again. Quickest way to lose the fan base in Seattle is to give the impression that the owners are reverting to those days.

Beckett might gain back some of his shine in the NL. He is getting killed in the AL East and bag of baseballs and diet coke that we get for him wouldn't be so bad!

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Originally posted 12:16 PM ET  07.31 by Traded to Seattle

I think Upton is over-rated by D'backs fans, and consequently the team has to ask for more than he is worth to avoid irritating them. But you are right, Upton and a prospect for Beckett and Kalish is about the right amount.

Most scouts believe Upton was one of the best prospect over the last 20 years...right up there with Griffey Jr. in terms of total skill set, hitting, throwing, fielding, running etc.

the mariners ace its going nowhere,,,, but cliff lee should be shifted back to the west division, either to the american league or in the national league,,,,

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Originally posted 01:56 PM ET  07.31 by rjfish

Most scouts believe Upton was one of the best prospect over the last 20 years...right up there with Griffey Jr. in terms of total skill set, hitting, throwing, fielding, running etc.

yep, he has the skills, but he hasn't translated them into performance. In his 6th year in the league his career numbers are 276/358/475--not bad, but nothing particularly special. His UZR/150 is 3.6 which is slightly above average. He is just turning 25 next month, so there is still hope for a breakout season, but the hope is fading pretty fast at this point.

His brother has the same skills, has been in the league 8 years, is turning 28--his career numbers are 255/339/412, with a UZR 150 of 4.1.

Both of them are good steady players, but neither of them have been stars. It is getting to be time to say that "what you see is what you get," and quit waiting for the big breakout. I suspect that is why the D'backs are willing to trade--they figure they can find someone willing to overpay for the potential.

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Originally posted 11:17 AM ET  07.31 by BOHICA

Youre dreaming if you think youre gonna get Upton and Bauer for the Sox's garbage.

Beckett is still a viable big league pitcher, but he needs a change of scenery badly. Kalish still has a bright future.

The D Backs have certainly acted as if they want to deal Upton.

Not saying this is likely, but more feasible than you believe. It would involve some more prospects and support players, but possible.

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Originally posted 02:21 PM ET  07.31 by Traded to Seattle

yep, he has the skills, but he hasn't translated them into performance. In his 6th year in the league his career numbers are 276/358/475--not bad, but nothing particularly special. His UZR/150 is 3.6 which is slightly above average. He is just turning 25 next month, so there is still hope for a breakout season, but the hope is fading pretty fast at this point.His brother has the same skills, has been in the league 8 years, is turning 28--his career numbers are 255/339/412, with a UZR 150 of 4.1.Both of them are good steady players, but neither of them have been stars. It is getting to be time to say that "what you see is what you get," and quit waiting for the big breakout. I suspect that is why the D'backs are willing to trade--they figure they can find someone willing to overpay for the potential.

He is a great "tools" guy. Liek a top draft combine performer in football. Issue is simple - he does not make it happen on the field consistently.

just saw that the yankees traded for dwight howard.....