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Too late for Valentine

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08:11 AM ET 08.06 | A dispiriting season in Boston has the makings of a .500 limp down the home stretch. It's too late to empower Bobby Valentine. It's too late to make his players like him. It's too late to give him his own coaching staff. But it's not too late to correct the biggest mistake of the offseason. Valentine may very well still be a good manager in a vacuum, but he's the wrong manager for this team, and he has been since Day 1. ... In an increasingly fractured clubhouse where the team's biggest stars seem to have the least amount of respect for Valentine, the solution isn't to shake up the coaching staff or make a desperate waiver deal. It's to put Valentine out of his misery and give the team a fighting chance.

Boston Herald

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August 6, 2012  08:40 AM ET

needs to be a lot of house cleaning going on over the offseason.

August 6, 2012  08:50 AM ET

'a good manager in a vacuum'. So shove him in a Hoover.

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August 6, 2012  08:53 AM ET
QUOTE(#1):

This was a mistake from the outset. Cut him loose and bring back Francona.

Francona will manage again someday, but not in Boston. That door slammed shut and he has no desire to open it again.

August 6, 2012  09:00 AM ET
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Francona will manage again someday, but not in Boston. That door slammed shut and he has no desire to open it again.

It wouldn't surprise me if Tito never managed again. His health really went down hill when managing the Sox. I think he has the perfect job with ESPN.

August 6, 2012  09:08 AM ET
QUOTE(#4):

Its not Valentine, its not Cherington, its Lucchino

Congratulations on your ascendancy to most active users status..... they blew away 10K of my comments over the weekend - so congrats on your userption....

August 6, 2012  09:09 AM ET
QUOTE(#4):

Its not Valentine, its not Cherington, its Lucchino

By the way - morning all.

And right now - it's ALL of them. No chemistry, no cohesion..... a poisoned locker room, a front office that isn't making good decisions, and a lame duck manager. Go figure.

August 6, 2012  09:12 AM ET
QUOTE(#8):

By the way - morning all.And right now - it's ALL of them. No chemistry, no cohesion..... a poisoned locker room, a front office that isn't making good decisions, and a lame duck manager. Go figure.

Morning Lou.

August 6, 2012  09:13 AM ET

Good morning all.

August 6, 2012  09:14 AM ET

Geez - the Boston paper have been after Bobby's scalp before the season even started. Boston's mediocre season isn't his fault.

August 6, 2012  09:14 AM ET
QUOTE(#10):

Good morning all.

Hello moose.

August 6, 2012  09:15 AM ET
QUOTE(#10):

Good morning all.

Moose - thanks for the info again on the movie....!

August 6, 2012  09:15 AM ET
QUOTE(#11):

Geez - the Boston paper have been after Bobby's scalp before the season even started. Boston's mediocre season isn't his fault.

No it's not. But he really isn't doing anything to help his own cause. some of his decisions are questionable.

August 6, 2012  09:15 AM ET

How about that Mars explorer? It made it. What an amazing piece of engineering to get it on the surface.

August 6, 2012  09:16 AM ET
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Geez - the Boston paper have been after Bobby's scalp before the season even started. Boston's mediocre season isn't his fault.

This was a disaster no matter who they brought in. The offense has gel'd just fine. The starting pitching is fraught with a cancer. What can a manager do when you have head cases in the starting rotation?

August 6, 2012  09:16 AM ET
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No it's not. But he really isn't doing anything to help his own cause. some of his decisions are questionable.

I won't argue that. But he doesn't deserve to be fired during the season.

August 6, 2012  09:17 AM ET
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This was a disaster no matter who they brought in. The offense has gel'd just fine. The starting pitching is fraught with a cancer. What can a manager do when you have head cases in the starting rotation?

Yep. The team was flawed to begin with.

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August 6, 2012  09:21 AM ET
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No it's not. But he really isn't doing anything to help his own cause. some of his decisions are questionable.

I actually like most of his decisions I am aquainted with. And just like most things - when someone new comes in - there is an expectation that they must "DO" something to straighten things out. It's like most of the security stuff in force at the airports - some are very ineffective - but since it is visible - it is looked at as a good thing (perception is all it's about with this litigious society we live in). So he did some things. And has been nothing but castigated for it. If he had let some of it slide - he would have been hung for not doing anything to change the culture in the clubhouse. It was a no win situation after what happened last year.

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