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08:25 AM ET 08.15 | The athletic program at North Carolina is under renewed scrutiny, causing some to wonder how deeply it is troubled. UNC football -- and probably basketball -- is going down, and it'll go down in part because a member of the PackPride message board found a damaging transcript belonging to a former UNC athlete. ... UNC officials didn't want to know what was happening, so they stuck their heads in the dirt -- and it just got worse. How bad? Maybe the ugliest academic scandal in NCAA history. This one is worse than what happened in 2007 at Florida State. I mean, it's not even close. Florida State had some numbers that looked bad -- 61 athletes from 10 different teams -- but this UNC scandal dwarfs it.

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August 15, 2012 09:00 AM ET

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Details, details. Time for a Butch Davis statue?

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August 15, 2012 09:03 AM ET

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Do they distinguish between "academic" scandals, and "generic drugs/booze/ho'ok'ers/tatts/$$" scandals?

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August 15, 2012 09:05 AM ET

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Originally posted 09:03 AM ET 08.15 by GR=O-6fan

Do they distinguish between "academic" scandals, and "generic drugs/booze/ho'ok'ers/tatts/$$" scandals?

Ooops, almost forgot "free shoes" scandals. How could a Gator forget that? ;-)

GR=O-6fan

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August 15, 2012 09:15 AM ET

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Well, it would be appropriate to report some quantitative measures (even if speculative) to support the assessment that the UNC academic scandal "dwarfs" the previous one at FSU (61/10).

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August 15, 2012 09:19 AM ET

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What if the academic shenanigans amongst the student athletes is just the tip of the iceberg... What if cheating is so rife that academic scholarship students are involved? A significant portion of the faculty? What if published papers must be recanted and withdrawn? Corruption so pervasive that even the janitorial staff are involved as runners?

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August 15, 2012 09:19 AM ET

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Originally posted 09:05 AM ET 08.15 by GR=O-6fan

Ooops, almost forgot "free shoes" scandals. How could a Gator forget that? ;-)

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August 15, 2012 09:20 AM ET

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What if this scandal dwarfs even the rum running during prohibition?

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August 15, 2012 09:20 AM ET

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Penn State people will point to this and say "See, it's not just us."
While the two cases are not even close to being similar, if you look at Penn State boards, it is already being done.

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August 15, 2012 09:21 AM ET

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What if this scandal dwarfs even the involuntary doping of athletes by the former East German state?

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August 15, 2012 09:23 AM ET

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What if this scandal dwarfs even the institutionalized industrial espionage of China?

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August 15, 2012 09:32 AM ET

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Originally posted 09:20 AM ET 08.15 by Joe Mammy

Penn State people will point to this and say "See, it's not just us."While the two cases are not even close to being similar, if you look at Penn State boards, it is already being done.

If you dig deep enough every school bends or breaks the rules at somepoint in time .