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Labor issues make Simmonds deal deceiving

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08:22 AM ET 08.16 | According to a report out of Canada, the Flyers and Wayne Simmonds agreed to a six-year contract extension somewhere in the neighborhood of $24 million. Although this reported new extension will nearly double his salary, there is a strong possibility that with the league???s current labor uncertainty, the new deal could ultimately be worth less. For instance, the NHL???s original Collective Bargaining Agreement proposal on July 13 -- which was finally countered by the NHLPA on Tuesday in Toronto -- called for a 24-percent rollback in player salaries. So, if Simmonds signed a $24 million deal, and the NHL gets its way, his new extension is suddenly worth a little more than $18 million. The NHL has also proposed term limits on contracts of 5 years.

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August 16, 2012  08:24 AM ET

Subtraction By Addition, Bro?

August 16, 2012  08:33 AM ET

Wouldn't it make every contract signed this offseason deceiving?

August 16, 2012  08:37 AM ET

I dont think Simmonds is a super star but he is def a steal at 3.8 Mil over 6yrs due to his upside, at 3mil I think he needs to have a long talk with his agent for not taking this in account, or worse, for making him think it was a good deal.

As a Flyers fan I really like Simmonds, and glad he signed for 6yrs, but worried when unhappy players are in longer term contracts that underpay them. Sooner or later they either stop trying as hard or just become a cancer to the team...

August 16, 2012  09:08 AM ET

They will have to grandfather these contracts.

August 16, 2012  09:14 AM ET
QUOTE(#3):

I dont think Simmonds is a super star but he is def a steal at 3.8 Mil over 6yrs due to his upside, at 3mil I think he needs to have a long talk with his agent for not taking this in account, or worse, for making him think it was a good deal. As a Flyers fan I really like Simmonds, and glad he signed for 6yrs, but worried when unhappy players are in longer term contracts that underpay them. Sooner or later they either stop trying as hard or just become a cancer to the team...

I wouldn't hang "superstar" on him just yet
And I just can't get with a 6 year deal

August 16, 2012  09:21 AM ET
QUOTE(#5):

I wouldn't hang "superstar" on him just yetAnd I just can't get with a 6 year deal

I can agree with a 5 or 6 year deal there's security in that...now anything more is excessive

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August 16, 2012  09:32 AM ET
QUOTE(#6):

I can agree with a 5 or 6 year deal there's security in that...now anything more is excessive

Not too crazy about those 14 year contracts eh? (I agree with you. 5 years is my personal choice for a MAXIMUM).

August 16, 2012  09:33 AM ET
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August 16, 2012  09:35 AM ET
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Not too crazy about those 14 year contracts eh? (I agree with you. 5 years is my personal choice for a MAXIMUM).

4-5 and more incentive laden.
And I think, include TEAM incentives in there, to wit;
If you score 40 AND we get to 2nd round.....
man I should be commisioner

August 16, 2012  09:53 AM ET
QUOTE(#10):

4-5 and more incentive laden.And I think, include TEAM incentives in there, to wit;If you score 40 AND we get to 2nd round.....man I should be commisioner

You have my vote and that of several others. Problem is, I've heard rumblings you are too tall, don't invite David Stern to drop the puck at the All Star game, and too often speak in simple, declarative sentences which are easy to understand. Start working on that stuff and I'll get the bumper stickers printed.

August 16, 2012  10:01 AM ET
QUOTE(#10):

4-5 and more incentive laden.And I think, include TEAM incentives in there, to wit;If you score 40 AND we get to 2nd round.....
man I should be commisioner

Don't we already have a prickly member of the shrew family?

August 16, 2012  10:16 AM ET
QUOTE(#5):

I wouldn't hang "superstar" on him just yetAnd I just can't get with a 6 year deal

He is not and don't think he ever will be a superstar. A five year deal max with incentives is what he should get. If he makes 20 million, that oughta be more than enough for the role he plays.

August 16, 2012  10:20 AM ET
QUOTE(#3):

I dont think Simmonds is a super star but he is def a steal at 3.8 Mil over 6yrs due to his upside, at 3mil I think he needs to have a long talk with his agent for not taking this in account, or worse, for making him think it was a good deal. As a Flyers fan I really like Simmonds, and glad he signed for 6yrs, but worried when unhappy players are in longer term contracts that underpay them. Sooner or later they either stop trying as hard or just become a cancer to the team...

I agree with both points.....

Simmonds will produce

August 16, 2012  10:22 AM ET
QUOTE(#5):

I wouldn't hang "superstar" on him just yetAnd I just can't get with a 6 year deal

hahahaha......really?

I would take him over Doan anyday in a Rag's uniform....he would skate circles around that old man and be more of a character guy....not to mention pot more goals

August 16, 2012  10:22 AM ET
QUOTE(#8):

Not too crazy about those 14 year contracts eh? (I agree with you. 5 years is my personal choice for a MAXIMUM).

Agree 5 yrs. Max, especially for marriage contracts

August 16, 2012  10:22 AM ET
QUOTE(#12):

Don't we already have a prickly member of the shrew family?

that's "shroom" family, and don't make fun of where he and the other elves live....

August 16, 2012  10:23 AM ET
QUOTE(#13):

He is not and don't think he ever will be a superstar. A five year deal max with incentives is what he should get. If he makes 20 million, that oughta be more than enough for the role he plays.

That's just it, i think his role grows along with the potential upside

August 16, 2012  10:29 AM ET
QUOTE(#11):

You have my vote and that of several others. Problem is, I've heard rumblings you are too tall, don't invite David Stern to drop the puck at the All Star game, and too often speak in simple, declarative sentences which are easy to understand. Start working on that stuff and I'll get the bumper stickers printed.

what if i invite Stern and Bettman to start a new thing? When I was younger, there used to be something called "Midget Wrestling"....that seems too tame now, ...how about :
"Midegt Cage Fighting"?
And I will try to say things in very roundabout ways.....(this is getting bad...there are far tooo many Python references stuck in my head)

 
August 16, 2012  10:30 AM ET
QUOTE(#13):

He is not and don't think he ever will be a superstar. A five year deal max with incentives is what he should get. If he makes 20 million, that oughta be more than enough for the role he plays.

frankly, I'd like to see him mature a bit and see what he is capable of without the dumb stuff

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