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08:07 AM ET 08.24 | If it's the offseason, it's time to wonder about the horizon in Sacramento. The now annual Sacramento Kings question has lifted its dark head once again: Are they leaving or not? Perhaps even the Kings don't know. Team officials declined Thursday to respond to a published report in a Virginia paper that the team will join Comcast-Spectacor and Live Nation in pitching an arena proposal to Virginia Beach city officials next week. Citing anonymous sources, the Hampton Roads Business Journal said team owners are expected to be in Virginia on Tuesday when Comcast unveils an arena proposal. ... Publicly, the team acknowledged it has been contacted by other cities in recent years about the possibility of selling or moving the team.

The Sacramento Bee

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August 24, 2012  09:10 AM ET

Virginia Beach? And then in 10 years they will be another small market team crying they can't compete which will cause another lockout. Just contract the damn league to 20 teams.

August 24, 2012  09:20 AM ET

I think we can probably name 10 markets that are much better options than VA Beach. Who exactly is going to buy all the luxury suites and sponsorships? The lone Fortune 500 company they have, Amerigroup, is being bought out by a competitor. Not to mention it's a military town.

August 24, 2012  09:26 AM ET

Not sure why Virginia Beach. Population is less then 500k and Charlotte Bobcats aren't that far away. Why pick a spot that is almost guaranteed to struggle with attendance.

Why not Seattle since that city has shown interest again? Or better to just stay in Sacramento.

August 24, 2012  09:27 AM ET
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Why not Seattle since that city has shown interest again?

I agree Seattle should be #1 on any teams relocation list, but from what I read the city is still fighting over who is going to fund a new stadium.

August 24, 2012  09:36 AM ET

Try Not To Be Court Jesters, Bros.

August 24, 2012  09:41 AM ET

FYI the Hampton Roads (7 Cities)area which does include Va Beach had a very successful ABA franchise the Virginia Squires which did very well until the merger imagine being a little kid getting to Dr. J play for your hometown team? It was awesome. This area could easily support a successful franchise my concern would be team ownership i am not remotely sold on the Maloof boys. I am sure Kevin Johnson would have some very cautious words for any city trying to do business with them. Just sayin'

August 24, 2012  09:55 AM ET
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FYI the Hampton Roads (7 Cities)area which does include Va Beach had a very successful ABA franchise the Virginia Squires which did very well until the merger imagine being a little kid getting to Dr. J play for your hometown team? It was awesome. This area could easily support a successful franchise my concern would be team ownership i am not remotely sold on the Maloof boys. I am sure Kevin Johnson would have some very cautious words for any city trying to do business with them. Just sayin'

Not getting on your case, but the ABA was about 35 years ago. Also, found this regarding why the Virginia Squires are no longer:

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The 1974-75 and 1975-76 teams went 15-69 -the worst winning percentages in ABA history. The team was coming unraveled off the court as well. In 1974, Barry Parkhill sued the team after his paychecks bounced. The Squires nearly shut down for good in February 1976, but only managed to stay afloat by a sale of advertising banners and a $250,000 loan from a local bank. Even if the Squires had been on stronger financial ground, they stood no chance of being included in any ABA-NBA merger. "Regional" franchises were not considered viable, and none of the Squires' home cities were nearly big enough to support an NBA team.

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Maybe things have changed, but again, with Charlotte so close and a team that is struggling with attendance, I don't think this is the best location for another team.

August 24, 2012  09:58 AM ET
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I agree Seattle should be #1 on any teams relocation list, but from what I read the city is still fighting over who is going to fund a new stadium.

Yeah, I thought they were close to resolving that, but looks like they aren't.

Agree this is probably a #1 choice. I don't think there were any problems with interest/attendance.

August 24, 2012  10:17 AM ET

The Kings are an NBA team?

August 24, 2012  10:39 AM ET
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Not getting on your case, but the ABA was about 35 years ago. Also, found this regarding why the Virginia Squires are no longer:____The 1974-75 and 1975-76 teams went 15-69 -the worst winning percentages in ABA history. The team was coming unraveled off the court as well. In 1974, Barry Parkhill sued the team after his paychecks bounced. The Squires nearly shut down for good in February 1976, but only managed to stay afloat by a sale of advertising banners and a $250,000 loan from a local bank. Even if the Squires had been on stronger financial ground, they stood no chance of being included in any ABA-NBA merger. "Regional" franchises were not considered viable, and none of the Squires' home cities were nearly big enough to support an NBA team.___Maybe things have changed, but again, with Charlotte so close and a team that is struggling with attendance, I don't think this is the best location for another team.

I guess if you're not from here you won't get it. Don't confuse team fiscal mismanagement with local support. There were a lot of pissed off people when that team was only not in the merger, but also folded. They played at the Hampton Coliseum and had quite a great following although we sucked. At last check The Kings weren't contenders either. Our area size as a region is not only the largest in the state but compares well with the New York and much bigger than Seattle area. There are enough medium to large companies to support this area. As for the Charlotte issue it is a non issue Charlotte is a six hour drive on a good day, DC about 3.5. My point was as much as we would love to have a team here i don't think the Maloof brothers would be my frist choice at starting over.

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August 24, 2012  11:26 AM ET
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Not sure why Virginia Beach. Population is less then 500k and Charlotte Bobcats aren't that far away. Why pick a spot that is almost guaranteed to struggle with attendance. Why not Seattle since that city has shown interest again? Or better to just stay in Sacramento.

Population of Sacremento under 500K, population of Seattle is 600K, population of Hampton Roads area (which VA Beach is part of) 1.6 million. Distance to Charoltte from Va Beach is over 6 hours. Just sayin.

August 24, 2012  11:31 AM ET

Virginia Beach! Ha ha ha ha ha ha. Oh Yeah, Virginia Beach!

August 24, 2012  11:42 AM ET
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I guess if you're not from here you won't get it. Don't confuse team fiscal mismanagement with local support. There were a lot of pissed off people when that team was only not in the merger, but also folded. They played at the Hampton Coliseum and had quite a great following although we sucked. At last check The Kings weren't contenders either. Our area size as a region is not only the largest in the state but compares well with the New York and much bigger than Seattle area. There are enough medium to large companies to support this area. As for the Charlotte issue it is a non issue Charlotte is a six hour drive on a good day, DC about 3.5. My point was as much as we would love to have a team here i don't think the Maloof brothers would be my frist choice at starting over.

I agree with what you said about "a lot of pissed off people" when the team folded.
But just not enough to warrant an nba fanchise. And I think it's the same today.

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August 24, 2012  11:47 AM ET
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Population of Sacremento under 500K, population of Seattle is 600K, population of Hampton Roads area (which VA Beach is part of) 1.6 million. Distance to Charoltte from Va Beach is over 6 hours. Just sayin.

Seattle itself is 600k, but the greater Seattle area is over 4mil. Seattle has already shown it can support a franchise.

August 24, 2012  11:47 AM ET

And the award for most moves by a major sports franchise goes to... drum roll.... The Rochester-Cincinnati-Kansas City-Sacramento-Virginia Beach Kings. Congratulations. Here are your bankers boxes and Groupon for a Bekins discount.

August 24, 2012  11:58 AM ET
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And the award for most moves by a major sports franchise goes to... drum roll.... The Rochester-Cincinnati-Kansas City-Sacramento-Virginia Beach Kings. Congratulations. Here are your bankers boxes and Groupon for a Bekins discount.

You forgot Omaha.....

 
August 24, 2012  12:04 PM ET
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Seattle itself is 600k, but the greater Seattle area is over 4mil. Seattle has already shown it can support a franchise.

I disagree with your statement about Seattle being able to sustain a franchise. Remember it was Seattle's lack of being bale to fund a new arena that we now have in Oklahoma City where it is doing very well it wasn't a large market either and smaller than Seattle. We would lke to have the same opportunity. Just sayin'.

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