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09:09 AM ET 09.01 | Negotiations between the NHL and its Players' Association screeched to a disappointing but inevitable halt on Friday afternoon, confirming the certainty of an owners' lockout when the current collective bargaining agreement expires Sept. 15. The recess in talks is a result of the NHLPA standing its ground Friday at the league's Manhattan offices in defense of player revenues, which commissioner Gary Bettman and the league owners are determined to "reset," or reduce, in the new deal. Instead of presenting a counterproposal that included components of the NHL's revised second offer from Tuesday, NHLPA executive director Don Fehr and the players returned with the same structure as their original response on Aug. 14 -- only tweaking the fourth and final year of the deal to allow for player revenue reductions to potentially decrease based on projections.

New York Daily News

Donald Fehr, Dave Reginek/NHL/Getty Images Donald Fehr, Dave Reginek/NHL/Getty Images
September 1, 2012  09:20 AM ET

And now the fun begins.

September 1, 2012  09:29 AM ET

"Budge" is the ugliest of words when used in the context of labor negotiations. I'll have to get used to basketball somehow. Ughhh!

September 1, 2012  09:31 AM ET

I know that the Buttgoblin gets hammered in here on a daily basis and you can rest assured I'm no fan of his, but.......................This P O S known as Donald Fehr is the biggest mistake the NHLPA has made to date. By hiring him the players basically told the owners to @#$# off. I really don't think the owners appreciated the players bringing a pariah like Donald to do their bidding.

We all know that is was with Fehr's direction that the union didn't come back with a counter proposal until recently and now we know what many suspected the whole time, that the NHLPA is not interested in bargaining in good faith. They knew the owners wouldn't go for revenue sharing and they put it on the table anyway in an effort to sway public opinion. It appears to have worked on some. They also knew that the owners were interested in playing under the last contract while the union fiddlyphuqued around not making an effort to negotiate, but they very publicly put that on the table as well.

I hope the players enjoy playing in Europe and Russia, cuz that's where they're going.

September 1, 2012  09:32 AM ET

*They also knew that the owners were NOT interested in playing under the last contract*

September 1, 2012  10:03 AM ET

GO BELFAST GIANTS!!!

September 1, 2012  10:25 AM ET

Scab players? A stick in one hand, beer in the other, goaltender has ashtray instead of waterbottle.

September 1, 2012  10:36 AM ET
QUOTE(#3):

I know that the Buttgoblin gets hammered in here on a daily basis and you can rest assured I'm no fan of his, but.......................This P O S known as Donald Fehr is the biggest mistake the NHLPA has made to date. By hiring him the players basically told the owners to @#$# off. I really don't think the owners appreciated the players bringing a pariah like Donald to do their bidding.We all know that is was with Fehr's direction that the union didn't come back with a counter proposal until recently and now we know what many suspected the whole time, that the NHLPA is not interested in bargaining in good faith. They knew the owners wouldn't go for revenue sharing and they put it on the table anyway in an effort to sway public opinion. It appears to have worked on some. They also knew that the owners were interested in playing under the last contract while the union fiddlyphuqued around not making an effort to negotiate, but they very publicly put that on the table as well.I hope the players enjoy playing in Europe and Russia, cuz that's where they're going.

Kind of have to agree with you here....its should be 50-50 AT LEAST..the NHLPA have to realize that the small market teams are bleeding money.....but Bettman has some blame on him too...cause he did not forsee this happening..the current situation and the owners using loopholes on the current CBA.

BUT...looks like there's gonna be another lock-out....sad to say..if thats the case im gonna be super pi__ssed off.

September 1, 2012  10:39 AM ET
QUOTE(#6):

Scab players? A stick in one hand, beer in the other, goaltender has ashtray instead of waterbottle.

Dont forget a cigarette hanging from their mouths...and theyre wearing shades too.

September 1, 2012  10:54 AM ET
QUOTE(#4):

*They also knew that the owners were NOT interested in playing under the last contract*

If the NHLPA is stupid enough to hire Adolf Fehrer as their union rep, they deserve whatever is coming to them.

September 1, 2012  11:06 AM ET
QUOTE(#1):

And now the fun begins.

It's simple really.

September 1, 2012  11:11 AM ET
QUOTE(#8):

Dont forget a cigarette hanging from their mouths...and theyre wearing shades too.

More dismay than anything.

September 1, 2012  11:12 AM ET
QUOTE(#10):

It's simple really.

Great, No holds barred hockey:)

September 1, 2012  11:13 AM ET
QUOTE(#10):

It's simple really.

I'd rather the players fit Adolf Fehrer with cement shoes and dumped him in the Bermuda triangle.

September 1, 2012  11:30 AM ET
QUOTE(#13):

I'd rather the players fit Adolf Fehrer with cement shoes and dumped him in the Bermuda triangle.

To 'sleep with the fishes'. I just like how that sounds, a Godfather moment I guess.

September 1, 2012  11:36 AM ET
QUOTE(#3):

I know that the Buttgoblin gets hammered in here on a daily basis and you can rest assured I'm no fan of his, but.......................This P O S known as Donald Fehr is the biggest mistake the NHLPA has made to date. By hiring him the players basically told the owners to @#$# off. I really don't think the owners appreciated the players bringing a pariah like Donald to do their bidding.We all know that is was with Fehr's direction that the union didn't come back with a counter proposal until recently and now we know what many suspected the whole time, that the NHLPA is not interested in bargaining in good faith. They knew the owners wouldn't go for revenue sharing and they put it on the table anyway in an effort to sway public opinion. It appears to have worked on some. They also knew that the owners were interested in playing under the last contract while the union fiddlyphuqued around not making an effort to negotiate, but they very publicly put that on the table as well.I hope the players enjoy playing in Europe and Russia, cuz that's where they're going.

I have to agree with you as well. It would not surprise me now if the league didn't tell the PA to get back to bargaining or the last offer we gave is off the table. I was confidednt they would get a deal done and the season would start on time. Not anymore.

September 1, 2012  11:46 AM ET
QUOTE(#13):

I'd rather the players fit Adolf Fehrer with cement shoes and dumped him in the Bermuda triangle.

While I agree Fehr is something you'd agressively scrape from the bottom of your shoe, what (who) is the common denominator (or should I say lowest common denominator) in 3 lockouts?

September 1, 2012  11:58 AM ET
QUOTE(#16):

While I agree Fehr is something you'd agressively scrape from the bottom of your shoe, what (who) is the common denominator (or should I say lowest common denominator) in 3 lockouts?

Players? :-)

September 1, 2012  12:24 PM ET
QUOTE(#17):

Players? :-)

A lot of the current NHL players couldn't even wipe their own asses when the Buttgoblin presided over his first lockout.

September 1, 2012  01:51 PM ET
QUOTE(#18):

A lot of the current NHL players couldn't even wipe their own asses when the Buttgoblin presided over his first lockout.

Based on their hiring of Donald Fehr I'd say most of then still can't.

 
September 1, 2012  01:52 PM ET
QUOTE(#16):

While I agree Fehr is something you'd agressively scrape from the bottom of your shoe, what (who) is the common denominator (or should I say lowest common denominator) in 3 lockouts?

The players union.

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