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Bettman already has BOG's blessing to lock out

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08:22 AM ET 09.06 | Definitive answers will soon be coming to the NHL, which has many preparing for bad news. More than 200 players arrive in New York next week for two days of meetings with NHLPA Executive Director Donald Fehr. NHL Commissioner Gary Bettman will hold a Board of Governors meeting in New York on Thursday. While it has been reported that Bettman would seek approval there to lock out the players if a new collective bargaining agreement isn't in place by midnight Sept. 15, the commissioner already has that approval, [NHL deputy commissioner Bill Daly] said. "Gary already has authorization of the board to lock out. I'm not sure he needs another vote of the board," Daly said.

Star Tribune

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September 6, 2012  08:25 AM ET

Bad Timing, Bros.

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September 6, 2012  09:15 AM ET
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K here's how this plays out:No talks until next...eh, Thursday say. Then Fehr and Buttfather announce "Last Minute Talks WOWZA!!!" to try and hammer out a deal in 2 days rather than the 9 days currently left because, ya know, there's a Real World marathon on MTV. They talk, they barely get anywhere, and Buttmunch comes up and says "despite our best efforts, we are too far apart and we must lock out. SLAM!" We miss early October games. Mid-month, someone offers talks, the other side accepts, they spend 3 or 4 days talking, and we have a season. Butterfingers isn't dumb enough to let go of the big mega big NBC cheese, and REALLY doesn't wanna jeopardize the Winter Classic between two teams who have employed Jonas Gustavsson in the past two years and whom likely won't be making the playoffs.

In other words, the NBA approach. Start at Christmas, jam in almost the same number of games into a shortened time frame, exponentially increase the number of injuries (someone tell these clowns that hockey is a leetle more physical than basketball) et voila!

Alternatively, wait until Jan 2 so we have to cancel the winter classic. Who wants to see Gustavsson start outside against his former team anyways?

Sigh.

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September 6, 2012  09:49 AM ET
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How could he be a bust? The mighty Red Wings signed him!

Holland signed him coz they already have Howard and needed two more stooges.

September 6, 2012  09:54 AM ET
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K here's how this plays out:No talks until next...eh, Thursday say. Then Fehr and Buttfather announce "Last Minute Talks WOWZA!!!" to try and hammer out a deal in 2 days rather than the 9 days currently left because, ya know, there's a Real World marathon on MTV. They talk, they barely get anywhere, and Buttmunch comes up and says "despite our best efforts, we are too far apart and we must lock out. SLAM!" We miss early October games. Mid-month, someone offers talks, the other side accepts, they spend 3 or 4 days talking, and we have a season. Butterfingers isn't dumb enough to let go of the big mega big NBC cheese, and REALLY doesn't wanna jeopardize the Winter Classic between two teams who have employed Jonas Gustavsson in the past two years and whom likely won't be making the playoffs.

That's a perfectly believable scenario. Maddening when you think that everyone has known the date this CBA would end for 6 years. Why these talks didn't begin when Fehr first took over the PA is beyond me. Why can't they have a longer term than 6 years? While I agree with most posters here that contraction would be a good thing for the league and for hockey, it's not going to happen. At leadt not with PA support. Fewer jobs, less dues money. Personally I'd like to see relocation tried first. OH, well............here we go again.

September 6, 2012  09:59 AM ET
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K here's how this plays out:No talks until next...eh, Thursday say. Then Fehr and Buttfather announce "Last Minute Talks WOWZA!!!" to try and hammer out a deal in 2 days rather than the 9 days currently left because, ya know, there's a Real World marathon on MTV. They talk, they barely get anywhere, and Buttmunch comes up and says "despite our best efforts, we are too far apart and we must lock out. SLAM!" We miss early October games. Mid-month, someone offers talks, the other side accepts, they spend 3 or 4 days talking, and we have a season. Butterfingers isn't dumb enough to let go of the big mega big NBC cheese, and REALLY doesn't wanna jeopardize the Winter Classic between two teams who have employed Jonas Gustavsson in the past two years and whom likely won't be making the playoffs.

Pretty much exactly what everyone's been predicting.
But thankfully we found out the NHL lost 240 mil in the last two days. Santa Claus told me that was true.

September 6, 2012  10:01 AM ET

The BOG likely will just give him a snazzy new etcha-sketch to play with at the next meetings while he pretends to be actively seeking a non lockout solution

September 6, 2012  10:20 AM ET

Just a little more evidence that the league had no intentions of bargaining in good faith. They are going to try the same thing they did last time - lockout the players and hope that gets them the salary rollback they want.

September 6, 2012  10:25 AM ET

240m in losses? Sounds like we are close to seeing the Las Vegas Gamblers and the New Mexico Drug Runners get expanded into the league.

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September 6, 2012  11:04 AM ET
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Just a little more evidence that the league had no intentions of bargaining in good faith. They are going to try the same thing they did last time - lockout the players and hope that gets them the salary rollback they want.

They even had this snazzy new logo designed.

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September 6, 2012  11:12 AM ET
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When did the owners make their first proposal and how long did the NHLPA take to respond?

The full proposal from the owners wasn't offered until July 25, the players responded three weeks later, the owners two weeks after that.

This is a fairly pointless argument as the league has been threatening a lockout and the players have said they will play under the old CBA. So when the players responded is moot as they have not threatened to strike.

September 6, 2012  11:16 AM ET
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That's a perfectly believable scenario. Maddening when you think that everyone has known the date this CBA would end for 6 years. Why these talks didn't begin when Fehr first took over the PA is beyond me. Why can't they have a longer term than 6 years? While I agree with most posters here that contraction would be a good thing for the league and for hockey, it's not going to happen. At leadt not with PA support. Fewer jobs, less dues money. Personally I'd like to see relocation tried first. OH, well............here we go again.

Fehr took over in August 2010, two years before the CBA was due to expire. Why is it on him to start the negotiations? Why didn't the league propose talks earlier?

And, do you really think the league wants contraction? Certainly the players won't be in favor of it, but I doubt Bettman and the owners are going to willingly contract the league. We are stuck with 30 teams cos both the league and the players want it.

September 6, 2012  11:23 AM ET
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Just a little more evidence that the league had no intentions of bargaining in good faith. They are going to try the same thing they did last time - lockout the players and hope that gets them the salary rollback they want.

yup and if I am the PA, flip the league the bird and let em squirm.

When the WC is in jeopardy and NBC searches through the contract language looking for an out based on the lockout....ole Buttlick will then be forced by the owners to agree.

September 6, 2012  11:26 AM ET
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When did the owners make their first proposal and how long did the NHLPA take to respond?

Rex the PA requested #'s to audit want the League was quoting.

 
September 6, 2012  11:27 AM ET
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The full proposal from the owners wasn't offered until July 25, the players responded three weeks later, the owners two weeks after that. This is a fairly pointless argument as the league has been threatening a lockout and the players have said they will play under the old CBA. So when the players responded is moot as they have not threatened to strike.

Players went through a lockout so the owners could get what they wanted. Now the owners don't want what they got from the prior lockout and threaten to lock out again.


Am I in a bizzaro world here?

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