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NHL player: 'We're almost a joke'

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08:27 AM ET 09.19 | For the most part, owners are undefeated in their three labor disputes with the players. In the end the NHL has also always taken full advantage of the individual hockey players, and their deep-rooted concern for the health and well-being of the league that they love. That aforementioned concern about damaging the game was front-and-center while chatting with the players after their second lockout practice at Harvard's Bright Hockey Center on Tuesday afternoon. "We hoped it wouldn't be as confrontational as the last time around, but obviously that wasn't the same sentiment on the other side," said Andrew Ference. "We're getting into this rut where we're almost a joke. Every few years we've got to revisit the same thing."

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September 19, 2012  08:33 AM ET

True dat..

September 19, 2012  08:54 AM ET

Basic premise of this article is incorrect. To say the owners always win is ridiculous. Under the last CBA, players recreived 57% of revenues, a much higher percentage than in the other pro sports. Players were offered and signed ridiculous deals all summer. How can they say they have "lost"?

Yes, players have always cared more about the sport than owners. But that is not unique to hockey.

September 19, 2012  09:02 AM ET
QUOTE(#2):

Basic premise of this article is incorrect. To say the owners always win is ridiculous. Under the last CBA, players recreived 57% of revenues, a much higher percentage than in the other pro sports. Players were offered and signed ridiculous deals all summer. How can they say they have "lost"?Yes, players have always cared more about the sport than owners. But that is not unique to hockey.

I agree with this, exceot for the last sentence. I don't see the same "love of the game" in other sports as I do in this one. Yeah, there are some guys in the other sports...but this is different. And I made the paralell yesterday, but I look at it like baseball used to be here in the US. It's woven into the fabric. Are there idiots? Yeah, of course there are. I have a particularly bad taste for anyone going to play overseas because they really don't need to (financially) and they are taking a gig from someone that does need it.

September 19, 2012  09:03 AM ET

I wonder what he means by "almost" a joke? No almost about it Andrew. Owners too.

September 19, 2012  09:03 AM ET

It is pretty obvious that Gary Bettmen is strictly a businessman. He has no love for hockey. Or, hockey fans.

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September 19, 2012  09:51 AM ET

NHL player: 'We're almost a joke'

"The Aristocrats" comes to mind.

September 19, 2012  09:56 AM ET
QUOTE(#2):

Basic premise of this article is incorrect. To say the owners always win is ridiculous. Under the last CBA, players recreived 57% of revenues, a much higher percentage than in the other pro sports. Players were offered and signed ridiculous deals all summer. How can they say they have "lost"?Yes, players have always cared more about the sport than owners. But that is not unique to hockey.

They may have gotten the 57% last time around, but it came with the salary cap and drastic cuts in salary. Just using the numbers from a recent THN article, Detroit was the highest payroll before the lockout at $77.8 million; after the lockout the salary cap was set at $39 million. That's lots of millions of dollars lost in salary over the last seven years. The extra 7% didn't make that up. It certainly helped spread it out among the rank and file of the players, but they didn't win last time.

September 19, 2012  10:00 AM ET
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NHL player: 'We're almost a joke'"The Aristocrats" comes to mind.

If you liked that watch his "dirty jokes".

September 19, 2012  10:06 AM ET

Andrew Ference said, "We're getting into this rut where we're almost a joke."

It sounds like Andrew Ference is talking about his hockey skills.

September 19, 2012  10:09 AM ET
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Andrew Ference said, "We're getting into this rut where we're almost a joke."It sounds like Andrew Ference is talking about his hockey skills.

Ha Ha - agreed

September 19, 2012  10:10 AM ET
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They may have gotten the 57% last time around, but it came with the salary cap and drastic cuts in salary. Just using the numbers from a recent THN article, Detroit was the highest payroll before the lockout at $77.8 million; after the lockout the salary cap was set at $39 million. That's lots of millions of dollars lost in salary over the last seven years. The extra 7% didn't make that up. It certainly helped spread it out among the rank and file of the players, but they didn't win last time.

+1

September 19, 2012  10:10 AM ET
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I agree with this, exceot for the last sentence. I don't see the same "love of the game" in other sports as I do in this one. Yeah, there are some guys in the other sports...but this is different. And I made the paralell yesterday, but I look at it like baseball used to be here in the US. It's woven into the fabric. Are there idiots? Yeah, of course there are. I have a particularly bad taste for anyone going to play overseas because they really don't need to (financially) and they are taking a gig from someone that does need it.

Agreed esp with respect to Baseball. But I think football players love the game as much as hockey players love hockey. Sure there are primadonnas in football that get a lot of notoriety, but most of the players have a deep passion for football. At least it sure looks that way here in the SE USA.Hockey players passion takes a back seat to no other NA sport, to be sure

September 19, 2012  10:27 AM ET
QUOTE(#11):

Ha Ha - agreed

You've enjoyed his skills up close and personal in Calgary, didn't you. Must've broken your heart when he left.

September 19, 2012  10:35 AM ET
QUOTE(#10):

Andrew Ference said, "We're getting into this rut where we're almost a joke.

"It sounds like Andrew Ference is talking about his hockey skills.

Whadda ya mean? Last season he had 6 goals and 18 assists for his best year in the last 7. ;-)

September 19, 2012  10:36 AM ET
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Agreed esp with respect to Baseball. But I think football players love the game as much as hockey players love hockey. Sure there are primadonnas in football that get a lot of notoriety, but most of the players have a deep passion for football. At least it sure looks that way here in the SE USA.Hockey players passion takes a back seat to no other NA sport, to be sure

you're right, and I daresay Texas also (for football)

September 19, 2012  11:00 AM ET

No almost about it, but the real losers are the average joes: the fans, the staff and employees of the arenas, etc...Gary Bettman is definitely the worst thing to happen to hockey

September 19, 2012  11:34 AM ET

It's not a joke until a wild bear comes out of the woods and asks Ference if S--- sticks to his jersey.

September 19, 2012  11:46 AM ET
QUOTE(#3):

I agree with this, exceot for the last sentence. I don't see the same "love of the game" in other sports as I do in this one. Yeah, there are some guys in the other sports...but this is different. And I made the paralell yesterday, but I look at it like baseball used to be here in the US. It's woven into the fabric. Are there idiots? Yeah, of course there are. I have a particularly bad taste for anyone going to play overseas because they really don't need to (financially) and they are taking a gig from someone that does need it.

You know my feelings on this too Spiny...and I agree...particularly in the case of the other Rumor today about the German Teams and how it won their Championship last season...and so, now the NHL players want to play for that team...and what?
Take those guys jobs...that were getting it done?
Yes...inconsiderate idiots that are just ....well, inconsiderate idiots.

 
September 19, 2012  11:48 AM ET

I agree with Ference if he is the one that said this...to an extent...
Except for one part...
ALMOST...a joke?

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