Why Phillies must lower Halladay expectations

get what you can while you can........phillies should continue the overhaul this off season and get some young blood...two years worth of humble pie should be enough for mgt to understand they acted as if steroids were still around, keepin all the old guys, and must now pay the overdue bill.....

Doesn't seem natural to doubt what Doc can do. I think I'll wait and see for myself but I think it's more likely to be something positive for Philly.

Because his arm is gonna fall off if they don't???

its too late to seat him now, the guy is getting to tired to be able to carry the team all by himself,,,

I think the Phillies are ahead of the Daily News here. Signing Cliff Lee was their way to prepare for a bit of a drop-off from Halliday--it just wasn't enough to prepare for the absence of Halliday, Howard, & Utley, combined with drop-off from Victorino. They got Pence to replace Werth, and that didn't work either.

Their rotation will be fine, they need to identify a couple of outfielders and a third baseman. I think they traded for a young catching prospect; if he isn't ready next year, they might need to find another catcher.

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Originally posted 09:40 AM ET  09.26 by Prayin' Utleys

Man do you EARN your moniker.....................if Howard and Utley were in the lineup on opening day they'd be in the playoffs and probably advance father than your "always a bride's maid NEVER a bride" Rangers....................tell me, has Nelson Cruz learned how to catch or are the Rangers gonna 'drop' another World Series?Does your mom look to see the inane things you post on her computer while she's getting trained by a group of UAW workers?

still livin in the past i c..... guess you will require more humble pie....howard and utley???...even the yanks would not go for those two has beens ...you is funny.....

As you near the end of your career, baseball gets a lot harder to play and becomes more of a job!

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Originally posted 09:40 AM ET  09.26 by Prayin' Utleys

if Howard and Utley were in the lineup on opening day they'd be in the playoffs

Howard was pretty average -- if not below -- this year and I wouldn't count on Utley playing a full season ever again.

Come on, Chasin, I'm not saying it's all doom and gloom for the Phillies, but if you're not concerned at all about some of the contracts and the performance they got out of them this season, you're just burying your head in the sand.

Your man will be 36 next season and if the Phils expect must out of him next season they need to pull him after 5 or 6 innings to save his arm for the long haul.

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Originally posted 02:24 PM ET  09.26 by SlinkyRedfoot

Howard was pretty average -- if not below -- this year and I wouldn't count on Utley playing a full season ever again.

For sure!