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08:16 AM ET 09.27 | Faced with a number of roster decisions, Bruce Bochy shed little light Wednesday. Bochy has a way of speaking in large groups that leaves great gaps between what he says and how it can be interpreted. For example, there is no guarantee that Aubrey Huff will be on the postseason roster at all, despite the assumptions of the past several days. Nor can you bank heavily on Tim Lincecum in a place of rotation honor because of his history. Nor can they say 11 pitchers or 12. ... Lincecum, whose last outing Tuesday was thoroughly shambolic, is not guaranteed Game 3 just on reputation. "His next start is going to be pretty important," is all Bochy would give up as information, but it says volumes in its own way.

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September 27, 2012  08:49 AM ET

But props to the organization if they hold true to not putting Melky on the post season roster

September 27, 2012  09:10 AM ET

It would be hard for me to put him in the starting rotation for the playoffs with his losing record this season, but would have him in the pen for long or short relief help.

September 27, 2012  09:24 AM ET

He's been like this all season. A couple of decent outings followed by a shellacking. I'm not sure how you can count on him in a short series.

September 27, 2012  09:55 AM ET
QUOTE(#3):

He's been like this all season. A couple of decent outings followed by a shellacking. I'm not sure how you can count on him in a short series.

willie what's been the theories that people come up with as to the reason for his inconsistencies? One day the guy in on top of the National League, next thing you know he's all over the place as far as performance goes. He does have unusual mechanics but doesn't seem like that would be the reason because that's what he's always done.

September 27, 2012  10:25 AM ET
QUOTE(#4):

willie what's been the theories that people come up with as to the reason for his inconsistencies? One day the guy in on top of the National League, next thing you know he's all over the place as far as performance goes. He does have unusual mechanics but doesn't seem like that would be the reason because that's what he's always done.

People have figured out his schtick. Film and scouting pays off.

September 27, 2012  10:58 AM ET

Shambolic??

September 27, 2012  11:50 AM ET

You gotta go with your best four. Linc is NOT one of their best four starters at the moment. Maybe he will be again someday, but not now.

September 27, 2012  12:09 PM ET

I get a stiff neck just watching his delivery.

September 27, 2012  01:13 PM ET
QUOTE(#3):

He's been like this all season. A couple of decent outings followed by a shellacking. I'm not sure how you can count on him in a short series.

You can't trust the guy. Sit him next to Zito for the playoffs.

September 27, 2012  01:15 PM ET
QUOTE(#9):

You can't trust the guy. Sit him next to Zito for the playoffs.

I'd like to see him Pitch!!!

September 27, 2012  01:52 PM ET

Hopefully his losing 40 lbs between last year and this year is lazyness and lack of work ethic....and not PEDs. Hopefully this season is a wake up call that he has to actually WORK OUT in the off season.

September 27, 2012  01:59 PM ET
QUOTE(#9):

You can't trust the guy. Sit him next to Zito for the playoffs.

You don't think the "bust" factor will rub off on Timmy?

September 27, 2012  02:08 PM ET
QUOTE(#5):

People have figured out his schtick. Film and scouting pays off.

Film and scouting have little to do with it. He's getting shelled because of his off-season fitness regimen. He dropped more than 30 (!!!) pounds in weight with a healthy diet and swimming and came to Spring Training "fit" but with little pop, his mechanics out of whack and everything off kilter... He has had trouble hitting his spots all season.

Hitters have no reason to swing at a slider with no bite that is seldom in the strike zone, and he seldom threw a fastball for a strike anyway (Look back at the WS against the Rangers and you seem him at his best, strikes whenever he wanted and utterly confusing hitters that whiffed on chin-high FBs or breaking stuff in the dirt...)

He was already losing speed on the FB even then, but with the weight loss, he's down 5mph from his career peak. With little oomph from the loss of bulk, hitters are sitting back and waiting for a change that they can tee off on (403 BABIP/801 OPS!!!, as opposed to to 193/403 a year ago...)

For now, though, Bochy and Sabean would be better off with Zito... A consistent junkballer is a lot better than a mediocre, unpredictable batting practice pitcher... He's still got great stuff but only for a few innings at a stretch. Five runs on either side of, or in the middle of, five lights-out innings is hardly a recipe for success for a team one year removed from a pop-gun offense...

He needs a good off-season to bulk up and get some more muscle (not there is much frame to hang it on) and next season should be (could be?) a lot different... Or he might be done...

September 27, 2012  04:56 PM ET
QUOTE(#13):

Film and scouting have little to do with it. He's getting shelled because of his off-season fitness regimen. He dropped more than 30 (!!!) pounds in weight with a healthy diet and swimming and came to Spring Training "fit" but with little pop, his mechanics out of whack and everything off kilter...

But he's had all season to get back into shape. I'm not buying your explanation, respectfully.

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September 28, 2012  04:50 AM ET

Pot is just the beginning of his vices my friend.

 
September 28, 2012  01:09 PM ET
QUOTE(#13):

Film and scouting have little to do with it. He's getting shelled because of his off-season fitness regimen. He dropped more than 30 (!!!) pounds in weight with a healthy diet and swimming and came to Spring Training "fit" but with little pop, his mechanics out of whack and everything off kilter... He has had trouble hitting his spots all season. Hitters have no reason to swing at a slider with no bite that is seldom in the strike zone, and he seldom threw a fastball for a strike anyway (Look back at the WS against the Rangers and you seem him at his best, strikes whenever he wanted and utterly confusing hitters that whiffed on chin-high FBs or breaking stuff in the dirt...) He was already losing speed on the FB even then, but with the weight loss, he's down 5mph from his career peak. With little oomph from the loss of bulk, hitters are sitting back and waiting for a change that they can tee off on (403 BABIP/801 OPS!!!, as opposed to to 193/403 a year ago...)For now, though, Bochy and Sabean would be better off with Zito... A consistent junkballer is a lot better than a mediocre, unpredictable batting practice pitcher... He's still got great stuff but only for a few innings at a stretch. Five runs on either side of, or in the middle of, five lights-out innings is hardly a recipe for success for a team one year removed from a pop-gun offense...He needs a good off-season to bulk up and get some more muscle (not there is much frame to hang it on) and next season should be (could be?) a lot different... Or he might be done...

Wow!

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