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08:21 AM ET 10.05 | Simple math may be holding up the NHL season. NHL commissioner Gary Bettman has a rule in place that he needs just eight of 30 votes to veto any CBA proposals that he doesn't himself approve of, while the NHLPA needs just a simple majority in order to ratify or reject one. ... [Dan Boyle] is not optimistic that anything will get done before more cancellations are made official, as each side has stated it's waiting for the other to make another proposal. "They say it's our turn, or whatever, but they don't want to negotiate until we start missing some checks," he said. "I don't see anything happening for the next couple months. I know that's very pessimistic of me, and I really hope I'm wrong. But the eight guys ..."

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October 5, 2012 08:51 AM ET

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They probably only need 16 votes to fire him too. Article doesn't mean a whole lot, The Fehrless one will stay tough for awhile too I think. I don't see the league starting until after Thanksgiving at the very best. I think it's at least 50-50 the season won't start at all.

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October 5, 2012 08:56 AM ET

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So "Eight is Enough?"

Canuck eh?

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October 5, 2012 09:08 AM ET

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Originally posted 08:56 AM ET 10.05 by Canuck eh?

So "Eight is Enough?"

that's what PM said (as the cereal goes flying out of everyone's mouth)

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October 5, 2012 09:31 AM ET

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Hey doofus ( Boyle ) how about you clowns tell your leader to submit a new CBA....and go 50-50 across the board over the entire span and put that 7% put into escrow......and im pretty sure that you'll get it back anyways or most of it......

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October 5, 2012 10:56 AM ET

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... the Fehrer's arse....

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October 5, 2012 11:02 AM ET

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Nothing??? Nada??? Jack??? Zip??? Zilch.

THE BISHOP!

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October 5, 2012 11:20 AM ET

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Originally posted 10:56 AM ET 10.05 by roamer

... the Fehrer's arse....

What? Comment #5 .... deleated? All I said is:

The only way this ends any time soon is if enough players like Dan become a painful Boil on the Fehrer's arse and order him back to the negotiating table and not leave till a deal is done!

Unreal!

roamer

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October 5, 2012 11:45 AM ET

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Originally posted 11:20 AM ET 10.05 by roamer

What? Comment #5 .... deleated? All I said is:The only way this ends any time soon is if enough players like Dan become a painful Boil on the Fehrer's arse and order him back to the negotiating table and not leave till a deal is done! Unreal!

They don't like references to WWII
Not even sure if you can say the Name Hitler on here. Adolf

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October 5, 2012 11:45 AM ET

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They don't like references to WWIINot even sure if you can say the Name Hitler on here. Adolf

Just to see if comment gets deleted I quoted it.

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October 5, 2012 05:03 PM ET

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Originally posted 11:45 AM ET 10.05 by Baun-ded=PH in MOTION

They don't like references to WWIINot even sure if you can say the Name Hitler on here. Adolf

"Arse" was the offending word. :-(