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08:12 AM ET 10.17 | Giants ace Matt Cain may or may not have a measure of revenge on his mind when he takes the mound against the Cardinals. The sight of [Cain] and Cardinals left fielder Matt Holliday staring each other down conjures the image of two Wild West gunfighters confronting each other at 20 paces. ... Cain wasn't concerned about the impression he might leave if he flings a pitch that travels a little too far inside toward Holliday. It could be interpreted as retaliation for Holliday's physical Game 2 slide into second baseman Marco Scutaro. "You have to pitch your game," Cain said. "If something gets away from you inside, that's kind of part of the game. You've got to be able to pitch inside and you've got to be able to pitch away."
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It was a dirty slide by Holliday....and if your play like that ..you better accept the consequences...
Sgt. Schultz
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If it was so call dirty or illegal why didn't the umpire call the runner out at first also.
toad
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True. Yes, it was dirty play. Everybody knows it. Not hard play, dirty play.
50yearfan
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Because the umpire had no gonads....he slid after he crossed the big...dirty slide plain and simple ...always was and always will be....
Sgt. Schultz
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Yes it was, that being said, Cain didn't say he was targeting Holliday like the headline would imply. He merely said he isn't going to shy away from pitching inside. The Giants would stupid to focus on retribution at this stage in the season. Baserunners should be at a premium; they shouldn't give the Cards a free one just to say they got payback.
williewilliejuan
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So, any time a pitcher hits a batter and the umpire does not throw him out ,not warn, but throw him out, then that means it was unintentional? Rule says intentional pitch and you are out of the game. first time.
50yearfan
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That is the ultimate payback. Win. Holliday knows he acted like a punk on that play, and so do millions of others. Including his own middle infielders.
50yearfan
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Agreed. I think Cain is too smart for that at this point of the season.
ElevenRingsSTL
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yep, there is always next year.
jnorman41
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Infielders used to take care of this themselves. The technique is called lowballing; it encourages baserunners to start sliding earlier, or risk losing their heads. The pitcher needs to concentrate on pitching.
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If Scutaro is able to play the next game after leaving in the 5th, then it would be insane to have your pitcher ejected for retaliation. Holliday has never been a dirty player that I remember, I think he just got caught up in the playoffs. That said go ahead, throw one over his head.
shiprock
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I'm not sure that it was a dirty play. He stayed in the base path, actually hit second base and continued past trying to interfere with the play to first by holding his arms straight out. He never looked like he was actually trying to hurt the guy but merely get in the way. Sure, the fact that he did hurt the guy is going to upset a lot of people but I don't see that as his intent.
Yogi-Zen
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Good point......Holliday is shaky out there at his best. I still have no understanding of how he was one of the Gold Glove "finalists" last year. He's a slight upgrade over Chris Duncan, and that is all........and Duncan was probably the worst outfielder in history.
ElevenRingsSTL
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I agree. I think people are upset by how late his slide started, but I believe Holliday was just trying to break up the DP. There's nothing in Holliday's history to suggest he'd intentionally try to hurt someone.
ElevenRingsSTL
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Hopefully the guys just come out and play their best ball and see where that takes them.
Yogi-Zen
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You really don't need a history, even though I agree with you Holliday is not a dirty player, that was a dirty play. Tony LaRussa would have gone ape shat if somebody did that to one of his middle infielders.
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