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09:17 AM ET 10.20 | NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell appointed his predecessor, Paul Tagliabue, to hear the appeals of four players suspended in the New Orleans Saints' bounty scandal. Goodell said Friday that he notified Jonathan Vilma, Will Smith, Scott Fujita and Anthony Hargrove, as well as the NFL Players Association, that Tagliabue would be the hearing officer to "decide the appeals and bring the matter to a prompt and fair conclusion." "Any time we move towards a fair evaluation of the evidence it is a positive development," said Peter Ginsberg, Vilma's attorney. "Commissioner Goodell's belated recognition that he cannot possibly serve as an impartial and unbiased arbitrator is certainly a positive development. And we have enormous respect for Paul Tagliabue. "Having said that, we now need to learn whether Commissioner Tagliabue plans to provide to us the fundamental rights that Commissioner Goodell ignored, including the right to examine the accusers and to see the evidence, and also we need to consider that Commissioner Tagliabue is counsel to the law firm representing Commissioner Goodell in Jonathan's defamation lawsuit, as well as representing the NFL in Jonathan's challenge to the entire process in this matter."

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Roger Goodell,  Paul Tagliabue, Chris Graythen/Getty Images Roger Goodell, Paul Tagliabue, Chris Graythen/Getty Images
October 20, 2012  09:39 AM ET

Neither HC Payton, or the DC or the Saints GM have ever denied the original charge or the lies to the NFL offices or the continuation of the whole mess.

The CBA Vilma agreed to work under clearly states the methodology for infractions and the like. It is like if you are in the military. Their justice system is the system you agreed to live by. And that is that.

Either the players and coaches lied to Goodell in their original statements, or they are lying now. Have at it and call them all back in.

It was never in the best interests of the NFL or Goodell to go this route. It served no purpose and could only be damaging from a PR stand point.

Vilma should be careful. It could get worse for him and others involved.

October 20, 2012  09:44 AM ET

It's not for me to say You Love Me!!!!

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October 20, 2012  10:09 AM ET

The more you know about the League offices the more they look like a mob operation.

October 20, 2012  10:16 AM ET
QUOTE(#4):

The more you know about the League offices the more they look like a mob operation.

Why would they , the League Offices,make this stuff up about the whole affair? It does them no good.

October 20, 2012  10:19 AM ET

The longer this bone head and his high priced scab keep this up -- he may wind up with a lifetime ban ... suits the thug well ...

October 20, 2012  10:29 AM ET

The NFL is a farce. 1) Did the NFLPA get 100% vote or a marjority vote from its players? 2) If they got a marjority vote, then the players in dissent have every right to seek the federal courts for these violations, such as Franchise Tags, Hitler like authority by Goodell. 3) Every player has the right to due process and Goodell has disrespectfully ignored this process. 4) All these poster convinced that Vilma is guilty, wheres your evidence cause according to Vilma's attorneys, the NFL sure hasn't produced it. 5) We don't live in a country where just because you wanna see football you overlook blatant violations committed by Goodell and pronounce Vilma guilty because Goodell did. 6) Somma you look silly, just because you believe Vilma to be guilty, doesn't give you or Goodell to openly and blatantly violate any players rights, Vilma included. 7) Why do you think this tyrant recused himself?

October 20, 2012  10:31 AM ET

Vilma's lawyer needs to stay out of this mess. The Union already agreed to Tagliabue. This is not the civil case being heard but the NFL appeal and has nothing to do with Vilma's attorney.
One thing for sure and it will do a lot to settle all this. If the fed judge reviews the evidence and testimony and sends it back to the league. That pretty much sums up the fact that they people did it and are guilty.

October 20, 2012  10:52 AM ET

They need to accept the fines and suspensions and get back to playing football. This needs to blow over and be forgotten.

Remember, back when the story first broke, there was talk of bringing criminal charges. The last thing the league needs is some crusading yahoo politician trying to stick the fookin' government into the league.

October 20, 2012  10:54 AM ET
QUOTE(#8):

Vilma's lawyer needs to stay out of this mess. The Union already agreed to Tagliabue. This is not the civil case being heard but the NFL appeal and has nothing to do with Vilma's attorney.One thing for sure and it will do a lot to settle all this. If the fed judge reviews the evidence and testimony and sends it back to the league. That pretty much sums up the fact that they people did it and are guilty.

But the point is a federal judge hasn't done that. I would hope that it does go to the fed bench and remains there for final adjudication.

October 20, 2012  10:58 AM ET
QUOTE(#5):

Why would they , the League Offices,make this stuff up about the whole affair? It does them no good.

Tell'em to produce the evidence. I don't trust the NFL as you do, and I can certainly say that the players that are involved in this, don't either.

October 20, 2012  11:22 AM ET
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Tell'em to produce the evidence. I don't trust the NFL as you do, and I can certainly say that the players that are involved in this, don't either.

They did, and have, turned over all documents the decisions were based on. Now some players are denying their original statements. I agree though, put it all out there then you will see some really pi##ed of people; and it will be players and coaches who admitted knowledge of the whole thing.

No one has denied it took place, Vilma is only saying those jackpots were not his money. Well, it came from somewhere. Put that HC Payton and his DC on the stand. They know.

October 20, 2012  11:36 AM ET
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They did, and have, turned over all documents the decisions were based on. Now some players are denying their original statements. I agree though, put it all out there then you will see some really pi##ed of people; and it will be players and coaches who admitted knowledge of the whole thing.No one has denied it took place, Vilma is only saying those jackpots were not his money. Well, it came from somewhere. Put that HC Payton and his DC on the stand. They know.

You are right, put them on the stand and also their accusers as well, hold court and then be done with it.

October 20, 2012  11:56 AM ET
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But the point is a federal judge hasn't done that. I would hope that it does go to the fed bench and remains there for final adjudication.

It's a private employment matter. Why do we need a federal adjudication?

October 20, 2012  11:59 AM ET

I hope Vilma never plays another down.

October 20, 2012  12:07 PM ET
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It's a private employment matter. Why do we need a federal adjudication?

Vilma is trying to exhaust every option available to get out of a suspension... he's hoping that some legal loophole can be found someplace.

He wants his paycheck, and the NFLPA wants their dues.

October 20, 2012  12:10 PM ET
QUOTE(#1):

Neither HC Payton, or the DC or the Saints GM have ever denied the original charge or the lies to the NFL offices or the continuation of the whole mess.The CBA Vilma agreed to work under clearly states the methodology for infractions and the like. It is like if you are in the military. Their justice system is the system you agreed to live by. And that is that.Either the players and coaches lied to Goodell in their original statements, or they are lying now. Have at it and call them all back in.It was never in the best interests of the NFL or Goodell to go this route. It served no purpose and could only be damaging from a PR stand point.Vilma should be careful. It could get worse for him and others involved.

I bet that he attempts to sue the league in ten years over injury awareness. Whomever the commish is at that time can point back to 2012 and argue that when the league was trying to make the game safer, jackasses like Vilma tried to undermine those efforts in court.

October 20, 2012  12:27 PM ET
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I bet that he attempts to sue the league in ten years over injury awareness. Whomever the commish is at that time can point back to 2012 and argue that when the league was trying to make the game safer, jackasses like Vilma tried to undermine those efforts in court.

There you go, Mel... Dead on!

October 20, 2012  12:56 PM ET
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I bet that he attempts to sue the league in ten years over injury awareness. Whomever the commish is at that time can point back to 2012 and argue that when the league was trying to make the game safer, jackasses like Vilma tried to undermine those efforts in court.

Vilma is the ultimate example of why things like injury awareness and making the game safer will probably never work. Marginal players and players nearing the end of their career will do anything to stay in the game just a bit longer.

 
October 20, 2012  01:22 PM ET

Goodell...Ha!!! SOAR LOSER!!

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