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08:17 AM ET 10.24 | The NHL has apparently tired of talking to the NHLPA leadership and instead tapped in, on some level, to the players directly. What the NHL is really doing here is fishing for weak points in the membership: players who really don't want to miss paycheques and are willing to consider the not quite 50-50 offer on the table. It doesn't sound like they found all that many. ... "If the NHL's intent ... was to sow seeds of dissension, it has zero chance of success," one member on the players' side said Tuesday. "It actually shows owners are getting desperate and grasping at straws." Either that or a calculated move to see how much more there's left to squeeze.

The Globe and Mail

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October 24, 2012  08:24 AM ET

Are owners getting desperate?

Maybe desperate enough to fire the Buttgoblin?

October 24, 2012  08:42 AM ET



Aye.

October 24, 2012  09:17 AM ET
QUOTE(#1):

Are owners getting desperate?Maybe desperate enough to fire the Buttgoblin?

be still my beating heart

October 24, 2012  09:20 AM ET
QUOTE(#1):

Are owners getting desperate?Maybe desperate enough to fire the Buttgoblin?

Probably the only desparation the owners are feeling is the stock market tanking the last two days....that too will recover and they will still give nhl fans the cold shoulder.......

October 24, 2012  09:39 AM ET

Thought there might have been a story here... turns out I was wrong.

October 24, 2012  09:41 AM ET
QUOTE(#1):

Are owners getting desperate?Maybe desperate enough to fire the Buttgoblin?

If only it were that easy.................

October 24, 2012  10:12 AM ET

Ahhh..................The Globe and Mail.........Their investigative journalism always leads with a story that starts "Once upon a time, in a land far away, lived a little dwarf called Gary who was always tormenting a goofy widdle pit bull named Don, and another puppy called Steve...........(write your own ending, it'll be as accurate as the Globe and Mail's)

October 24, 2012  10:13 AM ET

Yawn, owners desperate? Why? they have other businesses lining their bank accounts, and only 1/3rd of the teams made money so why would they be in a rush to lose more money on hockey? Players will cave and get a worse deal. People like to talk about the potential money they'll lose with the owners proposal. Here's how to really view it, you're going to lose your whole salary this year, plus end up with a 50/50 deal anyways. Why waste a year for what you're going to settle for anyways. Wish I had millions I could throw away for no reason!

October 24, 2012  10:33 AM ET
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Yawn, owners desperate? Why? they have other businesses lining their bank accounts, and only 1/3rd of the teams made money so why would they be in a rush to lose more money on hockey? Players will cave and get a worse deal. People like to talk about the potential money they'll lose with the owners proposal. Here's how to really view it, you're going to lose your whole salary this year, plus end up with a 50/50 deal anyways. Why waste a year for what you're going to settle for anyways. Wish I had millions I could throw away for no reason!

You're not that far off the mark. Many owners will save money if the season is lost. In the other big markets...Canada mostly, a lock-out won't really effect the fans because we love the game above anything else...the southern markets will suffer though.

October 24, 2012  12:20 PM ET
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we love the game above anything else...

I find that statement to be a wee bit over the top.

October 24, 2012  12:38 PM ET

The NHL and it's owners formally endorsed outsourcing to other countries. Europe is now the home of Hockey.

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October 24, 2012  12:59 PM ET
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Europe is now the home of Hockey.

i guess its better than India

October 24, 2012  01:33 PM ET
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The owners ARE desperate..its pretty obvious....the NHLPA shouldnt budge 1 bit.......Bettman has no business trying to swindle the players outta their contracts anyways...you signed a player to a 98 million dollar contract, you gotta pay it, in FULL.

I keep looking at the NHL proposal and perhaps I'm missing it but I don't see anywhere that it says long term contracts signed will be reduced. It does say that they will count against the future cap which to me means that those teams that entered into those deals will have less money for the other players they want to sign going forward and that if said player retires before the contract is concluded that it will still affect the cap...seems to me that the teams that tried to circumvent the last CBA are the ones that are going to get the hit...not the players. AM I wrong here?

October 24, 2012  01:34 PM ET
QUOTE(#10):

I find that statement to be a wee bit over the top.

I may have been quoting Don Cherry. So that should explain it. But I put on my best suit when I wrote it Hank...we don't have drapes so....

October 24, 2012  02:12 PM ET
QUOTE(#14):

I keep looking at the NHL proposal and perhaps I'm missing it but I don't see anywhere that it says long term contracts signed will be reduced. It does say that they will count against the future cap which to me means that those teams that entered into those deals will have less money for the other players they want to sign going forward and that if said player retires before the contract is concluded that it will still affect the cap...seems to me that the teams that tried to circumvent the last CBA are the ones that are going to get the hit...not the players. AM I wrong here?

As I understand it, the owners proposal will have more of all players salaries, including contracts already signed, put into an escrow account. The players may or may not get that money back, so in fact it is a pay cut even for players with signed contracts.

October 24, 2012  02:41 PM ET
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I may have been quoting Don Cherry. So that should explain it. But I put on my best suit when I wrote it Hank...we don't have drapes so....

That's okay Puckhead......Love is blinds.

October 24, 2012  03:21 PM ET
QUOTE(#15):

I may have been quoting Don Cherry. So that should explain it. But I put on my best suit when I wrote it Hank...we don't have drapes so....

That can be the only explanation.

October 24, 2012  03:21 PM ET
QUOTE(#17):

That's okay Puckhead......Love is blinds.

Shoot me now...

 
October 24, 2012  03:26 PM ET
QUOTE(#17):

That's okay Puckhead......Love is blinds.

Ah, Venice.

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