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John Harbaugh rips NFL's injury reports

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10:06 AM ET 11.03 | A week after the Ravens were fined $20,000 by the NFL for not listing Ed Reed on the injury report, their head coach John Harbaugh said that the team will cite every "hangnail" going forward, and questioned the validity of the weekly report. "There's no credence on the injury report now," Harbaugh said. "It doesn't mean anything. It has no value. The injury report has no value." Harbaugh's rant, which he acknowledged will probably result in another fine from the league, was prompted by a question about whether he was surprised that Sunday's opponent, the Cleveland Browns, listed 19 players on the report this week.

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November 3, 2012  10:10 AM ET

A question.

Who are the bigger whiners? The Harbaughs or the Ryans?

November 3, 2012  10:21 AM ET
QUOTE(#1):

A question.Who are the bigger whiners? The Harbaughs or the Ryans?

Girth wise I'd give it to the Ryans, frequency wise, the Harbaughs

November 3, 2012  10:43 AM ET

The rule is quite simple to understand and clearly written. Not sure what part Harbaugh does not get? I think that sick feeling he has is from watching game film of his team the last few weeks.

November 3, 2012  10:55 AM ET
QUOTE(#3):

The rule is quite simple to understand and clearly written. Not sure what part Harbaugh does not get? I think that sick feeling he has is from watching game film of his team the last few weeks.

Agreed 50. And now I know why they're called the Ravin's.

November 3, 2012  10:58 AM ET

I have not read the rule, how many days before you play do you have to report injuries ? How many days does it take the Vegas odds makers to set the point spread ?

November 3, 2012  10:58 AM ET

Did anybody ever tell the Harbaugh boys NO! when they were growing up?

November 3, 2012  12:16 PM ET
QUOTE(#6):

Did anybody ever tell the Harbaugh boys NO! when they were growing up?

Clearly not...

November 3, 2012  12:19 PM ET
QUOTE(#1):

A question.Who are the bigger whiners? The Harbaughs or the Ryans?

That's just gobble, gobble, gobble, turnkey talk!

November 3, 2012  12:19 PM ET
QUOTE(#8):

That's just gobble, gobble, gobble, turnkey talk!

turkey talk.

November 3, 2012  02:13 PM ET

Coaches whine to show how committed they are. As for Ryan's versus Harbaugh's, the Harbaugh's win enough that they can whine a bit more.

November 3, 2012  03:48 PM ET

The Harbaughs never stop whining.

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November 3, 2012  06:36 PM ET
QUOTE(#5):

I have not read the rule, how many days before you play do you have to report injuries ? How many days does it take the Vegas odds makers to set the point spread ?

Regarding the oddsmakers, lines for the following week are generally available online late Sunday night (for the following weekend). A typical exception is if the QB is questionable. Typically, no other players will result in the line not being available. An exception to the second part of that is if a "top" RB such as AD of the Vikings is questionable. If AD (AP is NOT correct) is quesionable, generally, the line will be "OFF" until it is clear whether or not he will play. Chris Johnson or Maurice Jones-Drew could have the same effect with a line being "OFF" or not.
Injuries must be reported weekly. I think the required day is Tuesday. The requirement of the injury list is to list players who are Out, Questionable, Doubtful or Probable. Typically Doubful and Probable will play. Questionable will play if the player is able to practice. With the internet and widespread communication some could argue that the injury list is not as important as it previously was. The Ravens will certainly claim that "everyone knew" that Reed was out. (Which is probably true, but rules are rules. Also, I think the Patriots got a rebuke from the Commish about their reporting procedures, so they also now list absolutely everyone they can).
I hope this helps, Eagles fan.

November 3, 2012  08:19 PM ET

Hand out the crying towels to biggest cry baby of them all.

November 3, 2012  08:50 PM ET
QUOTE(#13):

Regarding the oddsmakers, lines for the following week are generally available online late Sunday night (for the following weekend). A typical exception is if the QB is questionable. Typically, no other players will result in the line not being available. An exception to the second part of that is if a "top" RB such as AD of the Vikings is questionable. If AD (AP is NOT correct) is quesionable, generally, the line will be "OFF" until it is clear whether or not he will play. Chris Johnson or Maurice Jones-Drew could have the same effect with a line being "OFF" or not. Injuries must be reported weekly. I think the required day is Tuesday. The requirement of the injury list is to list players who are Out, Questionable, Doubtful or Probable. Typically Doubful and Probable will play. Questionable will play if the player is able to practice. With the internet and widespread communication some could argue that the injury list is not as important as it previously was. The Ravens will certainly claim that "everyone knew" that Reed was out. (Which is probably true, but rules are rules. Also, I think the Patriots got a rebuke from the Commish about their reporting procedures, so they also now list absolutely everyone they can). I hope this helps, Eagles fan.

So why the fine for filing late ?

November 4, 2012  07:28 AM ET

I give this guy one or two more years in the league before he burns out or his head explodes....

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November 4, 2012  11:09 AM ET

BTW thanks jr1966

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