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08:16 AM ET 11.19 | What, him worry? Joe Maddon has been chilling out in California recently, which has worked out even better given the Jill Kelley circus playing out near his Tampa house. He and executive VP Andrew Friedman have started chatting and will do so more frequently with the Dec. 2-6 winter meetings approaching. And while their offseason has thus far been more talk than action, one thing Maddon made clear: They're not going to react, and definitely not overreact, to the moves that Toronto has made to make the AL East even more treacherous. "I'm not worried about it," Maddon said. "We've talked about this before. We've gone through this with other teams, whether it's Boston or New York or whomever with all the different things they do in the offseason."

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November 19, 2012  08:34 AM ET
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Could Tampa finish fifth in the AL East next year?

Right now it looks like the Red Sox (sigh) have that position locked up. If the Rays can add at least 2 bats, they can win that division with the pitching they have.

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November 19, 2012  08:53 AM ET
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I'm convinced the Sox are going to do something. If not, they're setting Farrell up to follow the Valentine path, and I cannot accept that they would do that after all the bs they caused to get him.

They will do something, but it will take time. They have learned the hard way that just spending money and making risky moves, like the trade the Jays just made doesn't work. If they can develop and use their farm system like the Rays and Orioles, and still have plenty of cash to fill in troubled spots they will be set up for a long run.

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November 19, 2012  09:26 AM ET

It's going to be a tight race next year, with the improvements the Jays have made. Baltimore impressed last year, NY trying to keep it together and Tampa no doubt will be looking to return to the top. Even Boston will make some improvements at some level because last year didn't sit well with them after winning much more the year prior.

November 19, 2012  09:46 AM ET
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That's a pretty early judgment there. Jays still have a top 5 farm system. If they bring up the guys they're supposed to very gradually, and they blend well with the new guys, who says they didn't do this the exact proper way? Not saying this trade was flawless, but I certainly do think they are now better than they were a week ago.

All I'm saying is overpaying for older players with back loaded contracts rarely ends well. The last 3 years of the Reyes contract he will make $22M a year. Buerle will make $18M & $19M the last 2 years of his deal. And Josh Johnson looked more like Josh Beckett last season. Plus why in the world would the Jays agree to take John Buck, and his $6M contract, for someone they don't even need or want?

November 19, 2012  10:02 AM ET
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They will do something, but it will take time. They have learned the hard way that just spending money and making risky moves, like the trade the Jays just made doesn't work. If they can develop and use their farm system like the Rays and Orioles, and still have plenty of cash to fill in troubled spots they will be set up for a long run.

I think the RSox want to do a major rebuild so next year is probably not going to be a great year for them.

November 19, 2012  10:02 AM ET
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Could Tampa finish fifth in the AL East next year?

Not with the pitching staff they have.

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November 19, 2012  10:14 AM ET
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I don't necessarily disagree with any of what you say, but it makes them a contender now pending the core stays relatively healthy. It energizes the fanbase, shows the remaining players that playtime is over and especially after how dumb the team looked after the whole Farrell thing, shows the other teams that AA is to be taken seriously. In the end, time will tell.

Your right, in all likelihood it probably does make them better next year. That is if Reyes can stay healthy and Johnson doesn't suck like he did last year. And I guess if you want to be taken seriously in the AL East, it was a move they had to make. But the odds are, in 2 or 3 years down the road they will regret this trade.

November 19, 2012  10:33 AM ET
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That's assuming they all return, which is never certain with the Rays.

The starters are all under contract, as are 4 or the relievers. And the relievers that aren't want to return. I'd say they're in good shape.

November 19, 2012  10:33 AM ET
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I had a pithy comment to type, but then I saw that gal laying on the block of wood with her legs up to the right and my mind went blank.

She is a tad distracting, isn't she?

November 19, 2012  11:06 AM ET
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All I'm saying is overpaying for older players with back loaded contracts rarely ends well. The last 3 years of the Reyes contract he will make $22M a year. Buerle will make $18M & $19M the last 2 years of his deal. And Josh Johnson looked more like Josh Beckett last season. Plus why in the world would the Jays agree to take John Buck, and his $6M contract, for someone they don't even need or want?

They would take John Buck so that they have a serviceable major league catcher available so they can trade JP Arencebia and make room to bring up their prospect rookie Travid D'Arnaud who is waiting in AAA. That's why.

November 19, 2012  11:08 AM ET
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All I'm saying is overpaying for older players with back loaded contracts rarely ends well. The last 3 years of the Reyes contract he will make $22M a year. Buerle will make $18M & $19M the last 2 years of his deal. And Josh Johnson looked more like Josh Beckett last season. Plus why in the world would the Jays agree to take John Buck, and his $6M contract, for someone they don't even need or want?

Oh, and they got $4M cash, so in one perspective it only cost them $2M.

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