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08:16 AM ET 11.19 | The Phillies are no strangers to being powered by the long ball -- in 2009, the team had four players with at least 30 home runs ( Ryan Howard, Jayson Werth, Raul Ibanez and Chase Utley). It's understandable that Manuel and general manager Ruben Amaro Jr. want more power in the middle of their batting order, and they will have it if Howard and Utley are each around for 150 games in 2013. If Darin Ruf proves to be the power hitter it looks as if he can be, and the Phillies add a bat like free-agent B.J. Upton, they will have at least five guys capable of hitting 20 home runs or more and perhaps three players capable of hitting 30 or more. Add free-agent third baseman Kevin Youkilis, and the potential for six guys with 20 or more home runs exists.

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November 19, 2012  09:21 AM ET

Having 5 guys capable of hitting 20+ homers a year is no big deal. Look at what happened to my Yankees in playoffs. You need good situational hitters, good overall athletes that can field their positions well and good pitching.

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November 19, 2012  09:37 AM ET

Didn't the Giants finish last in homeruns?

November 19, 2012  09:38 AM ET

What choice do the have? Each year those star starting pitchers get a little older. The window does not stay open forever.

November 19, 2012  10:03 AM ET

Youk didn't actually tear it up last year. The way he hit, he's a #7 hitter.

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November 19, 2012  10:12 AM ET
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Are you implying the Yanks aren't jonesing to trade for Adam Dunn?

I think the Yanks have enough guys with power who can't hit for average or get on base worth a crap.

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November 19, 2012  10:26 AM ET
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Dunn's OBP was .333 last season, low for him but not bad for a guy hitting .200.He's not Kingman, Dunn's ability to draw walks is one of his few strengths...his career OBP is .370 with a BA of only .240.

Lifetime numbers mean about as much as a warm bucket of Hamster vomit. The guy had a sub 300 obp and sub 200 BA 2 years ago and his numbers last year weren't all that much better. Throw in the fact he led the league in strikeouts last year and has a big contract and the Yanks aren't going near him.
The Yanks need guys who can hit for average and get on base. It's the reasons they don't score if they don't hit HR's and their OBP last year was the lowest they've had in over a decade.

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November 19, 2012  11:08 AM ET
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No, they could use a few more.

Well.....Jason Bay is available.

November 19, 2012  11:46 AM ET
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Are you implying the Yanks aren't jonesing to trade for Adam Dunn?

No, we already have Granderson who was very similar to Dunn at the plate this year.

November 19, 2012  12:25 PM ET

ryan howard maybe, uttley not so much, the rookie hitter would need to proved otherwise, bj upton still haven't sign with the phillies, and youkilis is not even been mentioned from the phillies team, how they got such unbalanced imformation??

November 19, 2012  12:27 PM ET

the phillies need offense? yesthe phillies need some top power hitters at the middle of their lineup? yes but the top hitters still haven't print their name on any contract so far,,,

November 19, 2012  12:46 PM ET

wiseup: The window for the Phillies winning championships is closing quickly. Pitchers ,Lee and Halliday are in their late 30s. Rollins and Utley will be 35 next season. Their bench of Polanco,Wigginton and Utley Posednik are all in their late 30s. Youk will be 34 next season.Phillies would do well to trade Utley and/or Rollins Lee And/or Halliday for some younger prospects or MLers to replace middle infield. Their bench could alsouse a younger update.

November 19, 2012  01:06 PM ET
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wiseup: The window for the Phillies winning championships is closing quickly. Pitchers ,Lee and Halliday are in their late 30s. Rollins and Utley will be 35 next season. Their bench of Polanco,Wigginton and Utley Posednik are all in their late 30s. Youk will be 34 next season.Phillies would do well to trade Utley and/or Rollins Lee And/or Halliday for some younger prospects or MLers to replace middle infield. Their bench could alsouse a younger update.

Your closing window comment is dead on but your logic gets backwards at that point. First, Polanco, Wigginton, and Posednik are all gone (Posednik was released back in June). With a short window, age is irrelevant. It's all about short term performance. They need youth, but not until this window is closed. Then they need to completely rebuild. Filling spots with unproven youth will only minimize their chances to win in 2013 and 2014.

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November 19, 2012  04:43 PM ET

Yes teams...keep over paying for these huge sluggers. Meanwhile the small ball teams will keep winning by playing sound, fundamental baseball.

 
November 19, 2012  05:07 PM ET

wiseup: By trading Utley and/or Rollins while you can get something for them. If the phillies wait two more years,they wont get much for them. Lee didn't exactly have a great year, nor did Halliday. I'm not sure where these 4 are contract wise. the Phillies might be able to trade a combination of these guys for younger MLers That could step in to fill the voids, along with some prospects.

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