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07:32 AM ET 11.20 | Considered one of the NFL's very best coaches, Bill Belichick has taken some heat in the wake of Rob Gronkowski's injury. [The Patriots lost Gronkowski] because Belichick left him in to block for the extra point that concluded the 59-24 New England Massacre of the Colts. Belichick defenders, such as Tedy Bruschi and Tony Dungy, will give you the "that's football" argument. I will give you the "that's stupid" argument. ... Last time I checked, you can't return a blocked extra point for a touchdown. And how often are they blocked, by the way? On Boston's WEEI radio, Belichick said: "Football players play football. You tell me which guys are going to get hurt and I'll get them out of there."

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November 20, 2012  07:55 AM ET

And if he pulls Gronk on that play and the replacement misses his block and the rusher breaks the place kicker's leg? We keep Gronkowski, but lose Gostkowski. What are we going to do, sign Billy Cundiff?

In that situation, Mr. New York Post would be screaming that BB should have kept Gronk in.

Look, Mr. Post, you worry about your Jests and we'll take care of the Patriots, OK?

November 20, 2012  08:03 AM ET

BB is the best cach in football!!!

November 20, 2012  08:06 AM ET
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...Look, Mr. Post, you worry about your Jests and we'll take care of the Patriots, OK?

After all - you have Mrs. Herald to make these silly kind of claims.

November 20, 2012  08:09 AM ET

I don't think it's so much as the fact he had him in... Why does he have the 2nd best player on the team blocking for kicks is the question.

November 20, 2012  08:15 AM ET
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After all - you have Mrs. Herald to make these silly kind of claims.

Yes, indeed.

November 20, 2012  08:17 AM ET
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I don't think it's so much as the fact he had him in... Why does he have the 2nd best player on the team blocking for kicks is the question.

That's actually a better question. Of course, with Hernandez out, the other tight ends have been a revolving door, and I'm not sure any of them has had time to practice with the kicking team. Did you see that Visanthe Shianco played for the Pats on Sunday?

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November 20, 2012  08:21 AM ET

How does one break his arm blocking for an extra point? From the accounts that I read, Gronk didn't fall awkwardly. He never left his feet.

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November 20, 2012  08:22 AM ET
QUOTE(#2):

And if he pulls Gronk on that play and the replacement misses his block and the rusher breaks the place kicker's leg? We keep Gronkowski, but lose Gostkowski. What are we going to do, sign Billy Cundiff?In that situation, Mr. New York Post would be screaming that BB should have kept Gronk in.Look, Mr. Post, you worry about your Jests and we'll take care of the Patriots, OK?

Hindsight is always 20/20. Last time I remember someone getting seriously injured on a kick it was one of the Gramatica brothers blowing out his knee celebrating. Rare occurance to say the least.

November 20, 2012  08:25 AM ET

But what I wanna know is this:

In an extra point lineup, doesn't the guy outside the tackle have to be an eligible receiver, with an eligible receiver number like 87? You can't just put any fat guy in there, unless you go to all the grief of reporting as eligible.

And one of these days, maybe next year, maybe even in the playoffs, when all the DCs in the league are used to seeing Gronk line up to block for extra points, Mesko will take the snap, stand up, toss to Gronk and the Pats will have 2 instead of 1.

Wise are the ways of The Hoodie. Wise they are.

November 20, 2012  08:35 AM ET

Guys play with casts on their arms. It would not surprise me one bit to see Gronk suit up and just come in to block on extra points.

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November 20, 2012  08:59 AM ET
QUOTE(#2):

And if he pulls Gronk on that play and the replacement misses his block and the rusher breaks the place kicker's leg? We keep Gronkowski, but lose Gostkowski. What are we going to do, sign Billy Cundiff?In that situation, Mr. New York Post would be screaming that BB should have kept Gronk in.Look, Mr. Post, you worry about your Jests and we'll take care of the Patriots, OK?

What was the score when Gronkowski got hurt? If the game was a blowout he shouldn't have been in there.

November 20, 2012  09:11 AM ET
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What was the score when Gronkowski got hurt? If the game was a blowout he shouldn't have been in there.

The greatest risk on an extra point try in a blowout is that somebody will get through and take out either your kicker or your holder, who in this case is Mesko, the punter. You don't want that to happen.

November 20, 2012  09:12 AM ET

Sounds like nothing more than a freak occcurence to me. I thought this comment from Peter King's MMQB was pretty interesting:

"Coaches have 45 active players each game. They don't have a "second team'' of the point-after-try unit. The PAT is one of the most risk-free plays in football. Rodney Harrison, the former Patriots safety now in the NBC studio with me on Sunday nights, didn't get taken off the kickoff team in routs. And Tony Dungy, who coached the Colts and Bucs, told me: "Jeff Saturday was my right guard on the PAT team, and I'd never think of taking him off. All my years in football, I never heard anyone, never heard Chuck Noll saying, 'Well, we better get Jack Ham off the PAT team.' It's not something I'd question."

November 20, 2012  09:14 AM ET

Jimmy Johnson ALWAYS used his best players on special teams. He considered special teams play every bit as important as the other two facets of the game.


I really have no issue with Little Bill on this one.

November 20, 2012  09:17 AM ET
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Jimmy Johnson ALWAYS used his best players on special teams. He considered special teams play every bit as important as the other two facets of the game. I really have no issue with Little Bill on this one.

+1.

 
November 20, 2012  09:18 AM ET
QUOTE(#17):

Sounds like nothing more than a freak occcurence to me. I thought this comment from Peter King's MMQB was pretty interesting:"Coaches have 45 active players each game. They don't have a "second team'' of the point-after-try unit. The PAT is one of the most risk-free plays in football. Rodney Harrison, the former Patriots safety now in the NBC studio with me on Sunday nights, didn't get taken off the kickoff team in routs. And Tony Dungy, who coached the Colts and Bucs, told me: "Jeff Saturday was my right guard on the PAT team, and I'd never think of taking him off. All my years in football, I never heard anyone, never heard Chuck Noll saying, 'Well, we better get Jack Ham off the PAT team.' It's not something I'd question."

LOL!!



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