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08:23 AM ET 11.22 | For something so light, the 25-pound Heisman Trophy is weighed down by its own history. It's an award that is as much forged by unwritten rules, politics and regional biases, as it is bronze. We're entering a weekend that could redefine the trophy in a way not seen since inaugural winner Jay Berwanger's aunt Gussie used it as a doorstop (it's true). A freshman and a linebacker.. ... Barring a major setback Saturday vs. 5-6 Missouri, [Johnny Manziel] should all but wrap up the award. Te'o can lay claim to being his biggest challenger in carrying the Irish to the BCS Championship Game and Lee and Miller have their opportunities, too. It's a weekend that could alter the course of the Heisman like few races in history have.

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November 22, 2012  09:13 AM ET

Case Keenum was much better in the same offensive system and didn't even get an invite during his tenure!

November 22, 2012  09:19 AM ET

I would be all for someone other than a QB winning the heisman. Especially if that someone is Marquise Lee.

November 22, 2012  09:19 AM ET

Manziel should not win the trophy....he had 1 game against a decent team..

November 22, 2012  09:26 AM ET
QUOTE(#1):

Case Keenum was much better in the same offensive system and didn't even get an invite during his tenure!

Keenum couldn't run like JM

November 22, 2012  09:35 AM ET
QUOTE(#1):

Case Keenum was much better in the same offensive system and didn't even get an invite during his tenure!

But there are no Oliver Lucks or RGIIIs this year.

November 22, 2012  09:37 AM ET
QUOTE(#1):

Case Keenum was much better in the same offensive system and didn't even get an invite during his tenure!

DC, I can't figure out why Freshman Johhny Manziel is the front runner for the Heisman?? Is it because the Aggies beat Bama??? Hell the Oregon Freshman QB (Marcus Mariota), is just as good as Manziel, actually he has better Stats than Manziel. Is it Because Manziel plays in the SEC. Now I don't have any problems with Te???o winning the Heisman.

November 22, 2012  09:38 AM ET
QUOTE(#4):

Keenum couldn't run like JM

...and Keenum didn't have two NFL offensive tackles in front of him at UH like Johnny Football does.

November 22, 2012  09:40 AM ET
QUOTE(#2):

I would be all for someone other than a QB winning the heisman. Especially if that someone is Marquise Lee.

Go point. Lee is a very good player!!!! Maybe USC's win/lose record will keep him out of the conversation??

November 22, 2012  09:43 AM ET
QUOTE(#3):

Manziel should not win the trophy....he had 1 game against a decent team..

Good point. Read comment #6.

November 22, 2012  09:43 AM ET
QUOTE(#6):

DC, I can't figure out why Freshman Johhny Manziel is the front runner for the Heisman?? Is it because the Aggies beat Bama??? Hell the Oregon Freshman QB (Marcus Mariota), is just as good as Manziel, actually he has better Stats than Manziel. Is it Because Manziel plays in the SEC. Now I don't have any problems with Te???o winning the Heisman.

Are you saying this is what is happening OT? lol.

"For something so light, the 25-pound Heisman Trophy is weighed down by its own history. It's an award that is as much forged by unwritten rules, politics and regional biases, as it is bronze."

Gets back to the whole "best player in CFB" which has usually been a farce IMHO. Usually "best player on a name brand team" is who wins it except for a few situations like last year.

I'd love to see a defensive player win it for a change...and I'm not even a domer homer. But, the voters seem to slanted toward offense, again IMHO.

November 22, 2012  09:49 AM ET
QUOTE(#6):

DC, I can't figure out why Freshman Johhny Manziel is the front runner for the Heisman?? Is it because the Aggies beat Bama??? Hell the Oregon Freshman QB (Marcus Mariota), is just as good as Manziel, actually he has better Stats than Manziel. Is it Because Manziel plays in the SEC. Now I don't have any problems with Te???o winning the Heisman.

Might want to check the stats...

MM YDS CMP% TD INT SACK RAT
2012 2371 69.8 29 6 15 168.0

JM
2012 3047 67.7 21 7 22 155.1

Then throw in JM's 1117 yds rushing with 17 TD's

November 22, 2012  09:50 AM ET
QUOTE(#10):

Are you saying this is what is happening OT? lol."For something so light, the 25-pound Heisman Trophy is weighed down by its own history. It's an award that is as much forged by unwritten rules, politics and regional biases, as it is bronze."Gets back to the whole "best player in CFB" which has usually been a farce IMHO. Usually "best player on a name brand team" is who wins it except for a few situations like last year. I'd love to see a defensive player win it for a change...and I'm not even a domer homer. But, the voters seem to slanted toward offense, again IMHO.

DC, yes I guess that is what, I'm saying is happening. IMO I think Te'o should be the "front runner" for the Heisman!! By the way happy Thanksgiving!!!!!!!!! :-)

November 22, 2012  09:53 AM ET

Two words,, Te'O..
Nuff said.

November 22, 2012  09:55 AM ET
QUOTE(#2):

I would be all for someone other than a QB winning the heisman. Especially if that someone is Marquise Lee.

Gotta prove himself this Saturday first. GRRRrrr...

November 22, 2012  09:58 AM ET
QUOTE(#12):

DC, yes I guess that is what, I'm saying is happening. IMO I think Te'o should be the "front runner" for the Heisman!! By the way happy Thanksgiving!!!!!!!!! :-)

Hell, I'm a Johnny Manziel fan. I think he's great. I'm just not convinced he's "the best player" in CFB but the article already establishes that's not what the award is about.

November 22, 2012  10:03 AM ET
QUOTE(#11):

Might want to check the stats...MM YDS CMP% TD INT SACK RAT2012 2371 69.8 29 6 15 168.0JM2012 3047 67.7 21 7 22 155.1Then throw in JM's 1117 yds rushing with 17 TD's

Default I did check the stats before I commented at #6. Yes Johnny has a total of 38 combined passing and rushing TDs, compared to Mariota's combined passing and rushing TDs of 32, but Johnny threw one more interception than Mariota and had a 67.7% passing completion, compared to Mariota 69.8%. Do we want get more "Nitpicky"?????? LOL. Happy Thanksgiving :-)

November 22, 2012  10:06 AM ET
QUOTE(#15):

Hell, I'm a Johnny Manziel fan. I think he's great. I'm just not convinced he's "the best player" in CFB but the article already establishes that's not what the award is about.

I agree!! I guess what I'm saying is that, I really don't like this article. LOL.

November 22, 2012  10:09 AM ET
QUOTE(#17):

I agree!! I guess what I'm saying is that, I really don't like this article. LOL.

But, you've got to admit, it gives us another thing to argue about.

November 22, 2012  10:09 AM ET
QUOTE(#14):

Gotta prove himself this Saturday first. GRRRrrr...

LOL, yes it will be Lee against Te'o. Call me after the game. My number is 253 301-LICK ME!!!!

 
November 22, 2012  10:11 AM ET
QUOTE(#18):

But, you've got to admit, it gives us another thing to argue about.

So true and it's all in fun!!!! :-)

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