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08:17 AM ET 11.29 | NHL owners may publicly be in lockstep during the lockout, but they are quite far apart in one respect. The five most valuable teams -- the Maple Leafs ($1 billion), New York Rangers ($750 million), Montreal Canadiens ($575 million), Chicago Blackhawks ($350 million) and Boston Bruins ($348 million) -- are worth $605 million, on average. The five least valuable -- the Carolina Hurricanes ($162 million), New York Islanders ($155 million), Columbus Blue Jackets ($145 million), Phoenix Coyotes ($134 million) and St. Louis Blues ($130 million)-- are worth just $145 million, on average. ... [The] sport's three most profitable teams -- the Maple Leafs ($81.9 million), Rangers ($74 million), Canadians ($51.6 million) -- accounted for 83% of the league's income, while 13 of 30 teams lost money.

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November 29, 2012  08:48 AM ET

Makes it a bit harder to fire the guy in Toronto who manages the team that makes the most money.

November 29, 2012  08:49 AM ET

It scares me to think how much the Laffs would be worth if they actually had good on-ice product. Imagine sales revenues of post-season tickets and merch alone.

Suppose that goes for all three teams really. Although the Habs might have to repay the city for millions in damage after their fans trash the place after every Cup game.

November 29, 2012  08:49 AM ET
QUOTE(#1):

Makes it a bit harder to fire the guy in Toronto who manages the team that makes the most money.

They'd be making more if he managed them successfully. They lose a lot of money after they stop competing in January and people stop showing up to games and buying $18 beer.

November 29, 2012  09:03 AM ET
QUOTE(#3):

They'd be making more if he managed them successfully. They lose a lot of money after they stop competing in January and people stop showing up to games and buying $18 beer.

True

I was not saying he is good, just that there is an arguement in his favor. I am certainly thankful he does not work for my team

November 29, 2012  09:17 AM ET

Only 13 of 30 teams lost money? That means 17 didn't. (Notice how I got that right quick?) What a bonanza!

November 29, 2012  09:32 AM ET
QUOTE(#5):

Only 13 of 30 teams lost money? That means 17 didn't. (Notice how I got that right quick?) What a bonanza!

And make it 12, because seriously who the hell is even counting Phoenix anymore.

November 29, 2012  09:39 AM ET
QUOTE(#3):

They'd be making more if he managed them successfully. They lose a lot of money after they stop competing in January and people stop showing up to games and buying $18 beer.

Ha!

They lose out on playoff revenue and maybe some merchandise sales, but people never stop going or buying the $18 beers. The scalpers don't make as much towards the end of the season, but the tickets are all sold out for April games, the year prior. The people going still buy the beer too.

November 29, 2012  09:40 AM ET

13 teams are losing money! Relocate two, to Hamilton and Quebec, then retract another 6 teams, and eliminate the first round of the playoffs.

Then you still have five teams losing money...

November 29, 2012  09:41 AM ET

I'll take what the league needs is better revenue sharing for a thousand Alex.

November 29, 2012  09:43 AM ET
QUOTE(#5):

Only 13 of 30 teams lost money? That means 17 didn't. (Notice how I got that right quick?) What a bonanza!

I read the article... and I am happy to say that Dallas isn't one of the 13.

I also found interesting the thought of relocating some of the money losers to Portland and Seattle...

November 29, 2012  09:43 AM ET
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Ha!They lose out on playoff revenue and maybe some merchandise sales, but people never stop going or buying the $18 beers. The scalpers don't make as much towards the end of the season, but the tickets are all sold out for April games, the year prior. The people going still buy the beer too.

Sorry man. I've been to Leaf games in March the past few seasons. The place is 25% empty at a minimum, maybe a little less on Saturday games. It's pretty visible on tv too. I, and many I know, regularly turn down Leaf tickets in March and April because it simply isn't worth the food & beverage money. The tickets may be sold out, but each butt not in that seat can cost them $50-100, with that many empty, it makes a dent.

November 29, 2012  09:48 AM ET
QUOTE(#11):

Sorry man. I've been to Leaf games in March the past few seasons. The place is 25% empty at a minimum, maybe a little less on Saturday games. It's pretty visible on tv too. I, and many I know, regularly turn down Leaf tickets in March and April because it simply isn't worth the food & beverage money. The tickets may be sold out, but each butt not in that seat can cost them $50-100, with that many empty, it makes a dent.

The tickets are sold, and attendance does not dip significantly. It is not even close to 25% empty, I'd say it is a major stretch for it to be even 5% empty. I've seen the F/S, they aren't taking the slightest hit in the later months.

November 29, 2012  09:58 AM ET
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The tickets are sold, and attendance does not dip significantly. It is not even close to 25% empty, I'd say it is a major stretch for it to be even 5% empty. I've seen the F/S, they aren't taking the slightest hit in the later months.

Sir, I am telling you. The Gold/Platinum sections are ghost towns late season. I sit in the reds, second row from the top where the Maple Leaf Club is, and my row and the one behind me is usually half full. And these are against good clubs - I was at the game the Flyers beat us 7-1 last March, and even before they started getting swatted like fruit flies the arena was already a dead, barren wasteland. If their bottom line isn't being affected, the notion that they would be making WAY more money with on-ice success should be pretty straight forward. Not sure how anybody can deny that.

November 29, 2012  10:04 AM ET
QUOTE(#9):

I'll take what the league needs is better revenue sharing for a thousand Alex.

add contraction and relocation of 4 - 6 Teams and you just won the Daily Double Nard !

November 29, 2012  10:07 AM ET
QUOTE(#13):

Sir, I am telling you. The Gold/Platinum sections are ghost towns late season. I sit in the reds, second row from the top where the Maple Leaf Club is, and my row and the one behind me is usually half full. And these are against good clubs - I was at the game the Flyers beat us 7-1 last March, and even before they started getting swatted like fruit flies the arena was already a dead, barren wasteland. If their bottom line isn't being affected, the notion that they would be making WAY more money with on-ice success should be pretty straight forward. Not sure how anybody can deny that.

They can make more in terms of playoff revenue and late season merchandise sales.

The only way they make more ticket revenue or concession revenue is if they raise the prices even more.

November 29, 2012  10:09 AM ET
QUOTE(#10):

I read the article... and I am happy to say that Dallas isn't one of the 13. I also found interesting the thought of relocating some of the money losers to Portland and Seattle...

Agree with you. Those two locations would have some natural rivalries beginning almost immediately with Vancouver and the California franchises.

November 29, 2012  10:20 AM ET
QUOTE(#16):

Agree with you. Those two locations would have some natural rivalries beginning almost immediately with Vancouver and the California franchises.

Do you mean like the natural rivalry between marinara vs sweedish meatball sauce?

November 29, 2012  10:24 AM ET
QUOTE(#10):

I read the article... and I am happy to say that Dallas isn't one of the 13.

Because the Stars are owned by a Canuck :)

November 29, 2012  10:26 AM ET
QUOTE(#15):

They can make more in terms of playoff revenue and late season merchandise sales.The only way they make more ticket revenue or concession revenue is if they raise the prices even more.

Correct me if i'm wrong, sir, but do they not hike ticket prices during the 'offs? It's been so long that I don't remember...

 
November 29, 2012  10:33 AM ET
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Correct me if i'm wrong, sir, but do they not hike ticket prices during the 'offs? It's been so long that I don't remember...

Playoff games are ridiculously expensive. They jack the prices way, way up. I got season tickets, and every year they send me the playoff tickets with the rest of the tickets (they use to send them out in January, now they send us playoff tickets in August). The prices on the ticket are a lot higher than regular season. And another thing that has pissed me off is the Leafs last year started the premium ticket prices. Games that they consider "premium" (Saturday games, teams that draw a lot of attention, etc.) they now charge more for than regular games.

By the way, if anyone wants to buy hardcopy Toronto Maple Leafs home game number 3 & 4 of this years Stanley Cup Final, I will sell you them for a fraction of their face value. I'll do it for $5 a seat!

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