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08:24 AM ET 11.30 | In the wake of a report that three teams -- Toronto, New York and Montreal -- make the bulk of the NHL's money, talk of contraction may resurface. From his vantage at the University of North Texas, in the Dallas suburb of Denton, economist Todd Jewell sees contraction of the National Hockey League -- especially the money pits in the southern United States -- as an inevitability. ... In hockey, relocation is likelier than contraction. There are now several credible homes for teams, starting in Quebec City and Seattle, and then Markham in the Toronto suburbs would seem a likely profitable home for NHL hockey. If, say, Florida, Phoenix and Anaheim move northwards, that would greatly reduce the biggest globs of red ink losses from the NHL.

The Globe and Mail

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November 30, 2012  08:32 AM ET

Somebody please listen to this. Please, Please, Please.

November 30, 2012  08:38 AM ET

So fess up, Todd Jewell is one of our posters, no?

If not, he must be a charlatan, stealing the brilliance posted here and passing it off as his own.

November 30, 2012  08:39 AM ET

Preaching to the choir on this topic.

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November 30, 2012  08:50 AM ET

I don't consider contraction an evil at all.

November 30, 2012  08:52 AM ET
QUOTE(#5):

I don't consider contraction an evil at all.

Just necessary.

November 30, 2012  09:00 AM ET

While I understand the want for contraction by some quarters, and in some respects I agree, it may be necessary, not all hockey in the south is useless, or in desperate need of removal. Take my 'Canes for example, do they have a very small market? yes and the margin for error is slim, but I think with the local market (when they play) do relatively well money wise, but they also compete greatly with NCAA hoops here in the triangle for most of the winter months as well as NASCAR towards the end of the season, and yes, we have had varying degrees of success, which calls our viability into question but not all teams south of the Mason-Dixon are for naught.

Mismanagement is not the fault of the local populace for not going to games, lack of coverage by a good portion of the media in those places that are going backward doesn't help either, but who wants to read stories about perpetually losing teams? not me, and I still don't understand to this day why the original Jets were relocated to Phoenix. Who did that market survey and thought that would work out? either way, It'll be done, and it'll likely annoy the crap out of those markets that do lose their teams, but at least it might finally remove one of the black eyes Bettman has done in his tenure.

All I hope for is the 'Canes get left alone, we do alright, not always great, but alright.

November 30, 2012  09:27 AM ET
QUOTE(#7):

While I understand the want for contraction by some quarters, and in some respects I agree, it may be necessary, not all hockey in the south is useless, or in desperate need of removal. Take my 'Canes for example, do they have a very small market? yes and the margin for error is slim, but I think with the local market (when they play) do relatively well money wise, but they also compete greatly with NCAA hoops here in the triangle for most of the winter months as well as NASCAR towards the end of the season, and yes, we have had varying degrees of success, which calls our viability into question but not all teams south of the Mason-Dixon are for naught. Mismanagement is not the fault of the local populace for not going to games, lack of coverage by a good portion of the media in those places that are going backward doesn't help either, but who wants to read stories about perpetually losing teams? not me, and I still don't understand to this day why the original Jets were relocated to Phoenix. Who did that market survey and thought that would work out? either way, It'll be done, and it'll likely annoy the crap out of those markets that do lose their teams, but at least it might finally remove one of the black eyes Bettman has done in his tenure.All I hope for is the 'Canes get left alone, we do alright, not always great, but alright.

Your Canes also have a winning history . They league could and should ,easily contract 4 other Teams.

November 30, 2012  09:33 AM ET
QUOTE(#7):

While I understand the want for contraction by some quarters, and in some respects I agree, it may be necessary, not all hockey in the south is useless, or in desperate need of removal. Take my 'Canes for example, do they have a very small market? yes and the margin for error is slim, but I think with the local market (when they play) do relatively well money wise, but they also compete greatly with NCAA hoops here in the triangle for most of the winter months as well as NASCAR towards the end of the season, and yes, we have had varying degrees of success, which calls our viability into question but not all teams south of the Mason-Dixon are for naught. Mismanagement is not the fault of the local populace for not going to games, lack of coverage by a good portion of the media in those places that are going backward doesn't help either, but who wants to read stories about perpetually losing teams? not me, and I still don't understand to this day why the original Jets were relocated to Phoenix. Who did that market survey and thought that would work out? either way, It'll be done, and it'll likely annoy the crap out of those markets that do lose their teams, but at least it might finally remove one of the black eyes Bettman has done in his tenure.All I hope for is the 'Canes get left alone, we do alright, not always great, but alright.

The Lightning hold their own as well. They play to about 95% capacity, and avg about 18,500 fans a game.

November 30, 2012  09:37 AM ET
QUOTE(#8):

Your Canes also have a winning history . They league could and should ,easily contract 4 other Teams.

At least 6 need to go. Potentially 8.

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November 30, 2012  09:38 AM ET
QUOTE(#9):

The Lightning hold their own as well. They play to about 95% capacity, and avg about 18,500 fans a game.

HC holds his own too but they won't let him in the league.

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November 30, 2012  09:48 AM ET
QUOTE(#7):

All I hope for is the 'Canes get left alone, we do alright, not always great, but alright.

Preds have the same issues...small market...but they do put competive team on ice and have grown the attendance to a respectable level.....but with no season...keeping fans will be tough...

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November 30, 2012  10:04 AM ET

Went to watch the Sarnia Legionaires jr B game last night. Free parking...$7 dollar ticket..$2 dollar hot dog and a great hockey crowd. Kids played their sacks off. Im hooked.

November 30, 2012  10:05 AM ET
QUOTE(#2):

So fess up, Todd Jewell is one of our posters, no?If not, he must be a charlatan, stealing the brilliance posted here and passing it off as his own.

Hank's other persona. Capable of saying more than, Kill the cap, drink its blood.

November 30, 2012  10:06 AM ET
QUOTE(#14):

Preds have the same issues...small market...but they do put competive team on ice and have grown the attendance to a respectable level.....but with no season...keeping fans will be tough...

yeah but I heard you were going to buy up an entire section down in the lower bowl, that should keep em in business.

 
November 30, 2012  10:06 AM ET
QUOTE(#9):

The Lightning hold their own as well. They play to about 95% capacity, and avg about 18,500 fans a game.

can't cut the lightning, where else would I be able to go to watch the Habs play? (ok Miami, but still).

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