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08:39 AM ET 12.07 | To say Ducks winger Dan Winnik was disappointed in Thursday night's seeming disintegration of talks would be an understatement. [Gary Bettman] told assembled media that most elements of the owners' offer were now off the table. ... For now, it appears the only path to a new deal is if players are willing to accept the owners' terms. "This is clearly their boldest move they've made," Winnik said. "And to think that if everything's off the table and everything that was done since June or the first time we met is all gone, it is insane to me. That's just insane to think that any progress we made is gone because we refused to accept those contracting rights." The last-resort maneuver of union decertification might now pick up steam.

The Orange County Register

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December 7, 2012  09:02 AM ET

so then after all the back and forth, it turns out Dwarfus Horribilius is actually the "man behind the curtain" after all. he is a snake, and outside of a few in D.C., (yes McConnell, I'm talking to you...for one) I can think of no man alive i would like to punch so squarely and repeatedly in the head than this little troll

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December 7, 2012  09:02 AM ET

Please turn off the lights before you leave! Thank you and good night!

December 7, 2012  09:09 AM ET
QUOTE(#1):

so then after all the back and forth, it turns out Dwarfus Horribilius is actually the "man behind the curtain" after all. he is a snake, and outside of a few in D.C., (yes McConnell, I'm talking to you...for one) I can think of no man alive i would like to punch so squarely and repeatedly in the head than this little troll

Did you hear a reporter from Pittsburgh asked him (not verbatim) how he could justify being a Commissioner and having a lockout twice in two years? Love it! His head nearly come off!

You know? I used to not take sides in this matter, because I believe there are two sides to every story (most of the time), and the truth is somewhere in the middle. The players are now to blame. What was left on the table, and what the owners were willing to give on those two things, were not unreasonable (CBA length, and length of contracts).

To hell with the players. They will feel the backlash...hopefully.

December 7, 2012  09:10 AM ET

Twice in eight years...sorry ^

December 7, 2012  09:16 AM ET

http://triblive.com/sports/dejankovacevic/dejancolumns/3082106-74/bettman- owners-commissioner#axzz2ENLl83yR

December 7, 2012  09:16 AM ET
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What was left on the table, and what the owners were willing to give on those two things, were not unreasonable (CBA length, and length of contracts).To hell with the players. They will feel the backlash...hopefully.

but those idiotic contracts were offered by whom? And they want a long CBAA so that if revenues go up, the share doesn't, it's nonsense

December 7, 2012  09:22 AM ET
QUOTE(#4):

Did you hear a reporter from Pittsburgh asked him (not verbatim) how he could justify being a Commissioner and having a lockout twice in two years? Love it! His head nearly come off! You know? I used to not take sides in this matter, because I believe there are two sides to every story (most of the time), and the truth is somewhere in the middle. The players are now to blame. What was left on the table, and what the owners were willing to give on those two things, were not unreasonable (CBA length, and length of contracts).To hell with the players. They will feel the backlash...hopefully.

I could not agree more ! Every game cheque the Players miss going forward is completely ipon their own heads. I looked closely at everything the Players are being offerred. For a tier 2 pro sports league it is amazing what they have on offer. How they can think they are entitled to more is completely beyond me.

December 7, 2012  09:26 AM ET
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but those idiotic contracts were offered by whom? And they want a long CBAA so that if revenues go up, the share doesn't, it's nonsense

A seven year, or so CBA is not unreasonable to me (JUST MHO), or even a ten-year one, as originally proposed, so as Burkle (I think he was the one) stated it promotes a stable NHL. Fehr says it won't represent the guys coming in/up. Okay, they propose eight or seven years. Um, no, that's not good enough for the players either.

December 7, 2012  09:30 AM ET

Me thinks Santa is going to **** in Gary's stocking this year.

December 7, 2012  09:37 AM ET

Until Dwarf Bettman sets a drop dead date to cancel the season, this charade will continue as each side is trying to squeeze whatever they can out of this deal. If Bettman sets a January 1 date to cancel the season, then it is either put up or shut up on both sides. I will say that watching Bettman and Fehr's press conference's last night shows why both of them have a history of labor problems in their respective sports. They are both unlikeable, and I wouldn't trust either of them the second they leave the room and talk to the press. It is just sad that both Bettman and Fehr aren't even real hockey fans, yet they hold the key to our beloved sport these days.

December 7, 2012  09:48 AM ET
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Until Dwarf Bettman sets a drop dead date to cancel the season, this charade will continue as each side is trying to squeeze whatever they can out of this deal. If Bettman sets a January 1 date to cancel the season, then it is either put up or shut up on both sides. I will say that watching Bettman and Fehr's press conference's last night shows why both of them have a history of labor problems in their respective sports. They are both unlikeable, and I wouldn't trust either of them the second they leave the room and talk to the press. It is just sad that both Bettman and Fehr aren't even real hockey fans, yet they hold the key to our beloved sport these days.

+1000

December 7, 2012  10:09 AM ET
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but those idiotic contracts were offered by whom? And they want a long CBAA so that if revenues go up, the share doesn't, it's nonsense

Can some explain to me why a longer CBA isn't beneficial to the players? Every time there is a lockout they lose more revenue sharing and more rights. So wouldn't they want the expiration of the new CBA to be as far away as possible?

Fehr says is won't represent the new players, but the new players will be getting a worse deal.

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December 7, 2012  10:44 AM ET
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The players are now to blame. What was left on the table, and what the owners were willing to give on those two things, were not unreasonable (CBA length, and length of contracts).To hell with the players. They will feel the backlash...hopefully.

HAHAHAHHA. You were making a joke right. You funny.

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December 7, 2012  11:01 AM ET
QUOTE(#8):

I could not agree more ! Every game cheque the Players miss going forward is completely ipon their own heads. I looked closely at everything the Players are being offerred. For a tier 2 pro sports league it is amazing what they have on offer. How they can think they are entitled to more is completely beyond me.

Seconded.

December 7, 2012  11:04 AM ET
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You're the only joke. To make a point, you insult.

Another joke, hahahahhaa

 
December 7, 2012  11:05 AM ET
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Another joke, hahahahhaa

I apologize for part of the comment. It wasn't nice. I asked it be removed.

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