Brees tweaks NFL after bounty ruling

First!

So the players aren't suspened but the coaches and GM still are......

Shouldn't all the suspensions be vacated?????

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Originally posted 08:04 AM ET  12.12 by Formerly from Ewa PGH Fan

So the players aren't suspened but the coaches and GM still are......Shouldn't all the suspensions be vacated?????

I was thinking that same thing when I heard about it yesterday. A little bit of a double standard, ya think?

Do the crime, do the time. Boo hoo hoo for the Saints.

After the mail-it-in performance on Sunday against the Giants, this team deserves no sympathy.

Stevie Brown just intercepted ANOTHER Brees pass.

No, "its all you know it alls" who was wrong all along as well as Goodell and his bogus suspensions. I'm so glad I was right and 90% of you on this site were wrong and not man or woman enough to admit so....it figure as much. I remember all the "shut up Vilma and take it like a man" comments, some of which boardered on racism as much as outright hate. Go look yourselves in the mirror and look at your apparently ugly inner selves and then try to cleanse your greasy souls. The NFL & Goodell had no proof and couldn't produce anything concrete and the end result is they folded like a bad bagga chips running scared because of pending lawsuits by Vilma for assassination of his character. They are now hopeful that he drops the lawsuit. Next time you ignorant loudmouths go running off at the mouths, at least wait until there in a conclusion in the matter. As I said this is America and as such, we don't have a system in place where you are Judge, Juror, and excecutioner. Apparently most of you miss this. Shutty...this is Apple!

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Originally posted 08:20 AM ET  12.12 by All about the Apple

No, "its all you know it alls" who was wrong all along as well as Goodell and his bogus suspensions. I'm so glad I was right and 90% of you on this site were wrong and not man or woman enough to admit so....it figure as much. I remember all the "shut up Vilma and take it like a man" comments, some of which boardered on racism as much as outright hate. Go look yourselves in the mirror and look at your apparently ugly inner selves and then try to cleanse your greasy souls. The NFL & Goodell had no proof and couldn't produce anything concrete and the end result is they folded like a bad bagga chips running scared because of pending lawsuits by Vilma for assassination of his character. They are now hopeful that he drops the lawsuit. Next time you ignorant loudmouths go running off at the mouths, at least wait until there in a conclusion in the matter. As I said this is America and as such, we don't have a system in place where you are Judge, Juror, and excecutioner. Apparently most of you miss this. Shutty...this is Apple!

That was so wrong, it's actually right.

They used to be a likeable team.....

QUOTE(#6):

Originally posted 08:20 AM ET  12.12 by All about the Apple

No, "its all you know it alls" who was wrong all along as well as Goodell and his bogus suspensions. I'm so glad I was right and 90% of you on this site were wrong and not man or woman enough to admit so....it figure as much. I remember all the "shut up Vilma and take it like a man" comments, some of which boardered on racism as much as outright hate. Go look yourselves in the mirror and look at your apparently ugly inner selves and then try to cleanse your greasy souls. The NFL & Goodell had no proof and couldn't produce anything concrete and the end result is they folded like a bad bagga chips running scared because of pending lawsuits by Vilma for assassination of his character. They are now hopeful that he drops the lawsuit. Next time you ignorant loudmouths go running off at the mouths, at least wait until there in a conclusion in the matter. As I said this is America and as such, we don't have a system in place where you are Judge, Juror, and excecutioner. Apparently most of you miss this. Shutty...this is Apple!

Genius!

QUOTE(#8):

Originally posted 08:45 AM ET  12.12 by THE BISHOP!

They used to be a likeable team.....

Exactly....I don't care for the whole team anymore

QUOTE(#10):

Originally posted 08:50 AM ET  12.12 by Mangler.

Exactly....I don't care for the whole team anymore

This is the exact "damage" Brees speaks of.

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Originally posted 08:52 AM ET  12.12 by Robataille

This is the exact "damage" Brees speaks of.

Wouldn't it be great to actually hear the complete truth about this whole thing? It'll never happen, but at least we could have opinions based on fact.

That was an unusual ruling. Tagliabue basically said the coaches and administration of the Saints were guilty of having the bounty program, but the players were just "following orders".

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Originally posted 08:58 AM ET  12.12 by UtahFriday

Wouldn't it be great to actually hear the complete truth about this whole thing? It'll never happen, but at least we could have opinions based on fact.

That's why I'm rooting for Vilma to push his lawsuit until it gets to court. I'm interested to see what comes out during the proceedings.

QUOTE(#13):

Originally posted 09:08 AM ET  12.12 by SouthernBlueFan

That was an unusual ruling. Tagliabue basically said the coaches and administration of the Saints were guilty of having the bounty program, but the players were just "following orders".

Actually, that goes to the core of the issue.

They (the Saints) were caught, told to stop and didn't.

One can argue whether Goodell was over-zealous in how he suspended the players, but he was well within his rights to take Payton, Loomis, Williams and Vitt to task.

QUOTE(#13):

Originally posted 09:08 AM ET  12.12 by SouthernBlueFan

That was an unusual ruling. Tagliabue basically said the coaches and administration of the Saints were guilty of having the bounty program, but the players were just "following orders".

You got it. The ruling never says it did not happen, or that the players did not take part, only that the coaches are the primary suspects. You do not hear the HC or DC denying anything.

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Originally posted 09:50 AM ET  12.12 by 50yearfan

You got it. The ruling never says it did not happen, or that the players did not take part, only that the coaches are the primary suspects. You do not hear the HC or DC denying anything.

The ruling is the ultimate CYA, and 50 you know damn fine that the coaches involved got on board with the program for good reasons.

QUOTE(#6):

Originally posted 08:20 AM ET  12.12 by All about the Apple

No, "its all you know it alls" who was wrong all along as well as Goodell and his bogus suspensions. I'm so glad I was right and 90% of you on this site were wrong and not man or woman enough to admit so....it figure as much. I remember all the "shut up Vilma and take it like a man" comments, some of which boardered on racism as much as outright hate. Go look yourselves in the mirror and look at your apparently ugly inner selves and then try to cleanse your greasy souls. The NFL & Goodell had no proof and couldn't produce anything concrete and the end result is they folded like a bad bagga chips running scared because of pending lawsuits by Vilma for assassination of his character. They are now hopeful that he drops the lawsuit. Next time you ignorant loudmouths go running off at the mouths, at least wait until there in a conclusion in the matter. As I said this is America and as such, we don't have a system in place where you are Judge, Juror, and excecutioner. Apparently most of you miss this. Shutty...this is Apple!

Lighten up Francis. The ruling never said it did not happen. Got it ? It just placed the blame on management. Now relax and go read the ruling. Jeesh! And please, short, pithy, minus buzzy word over used trash talk comments are much appreciated. Thanks.

QUOTE(#10):

Originally posted 08:50 AM ET  12.12 by Mangler.

Exactly....I don't care for the whole team anymore

Come on mangler you can't really mean that you think this is something that hasn't happen before and not just in football. Think there's never been a pitcher who got paid to bean somebody? A hockey player who got paid to "nail 'em"? I'm not saying it's right but I think that we all know it has happened

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Originally posted 09:54 AM ET  12.12 by Mr Steeler

The ruling is the ultimate CYA, and 50 you know damn fine that the coaches involved got on board with the program for good reasons.

I agree, I think. The whole point is, "do not lie to the league offices." That is the Saints original sin that caused the whole mess, not the bounty stuff. The whole mess would have been swept under the rug in 2009 if Payton was not such a egomaniac buttthead.