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Jays exposed Mets' big-market vulnerability

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07:55 AM ET 12.17 | The Blue Jays, like the Angels before them with the Josh Hamilton signing, like the Tigers before them with the Anibal Sanchez signing, like the Reds before them with the Shin-Soo Choo trade, like the Royals before them with the James Shields trade, like the other teams (Atlanta, San Francisco) that have girded themselves this winter, see the vulnerability of the superpowers in New York and Boston and know that now is as good a time as any to take a crack at a championship run. To give up not only d'Arnaud but also Noah Syndergaard -- one scout compared him in both size and stuff to two other big pitchers developed in the Blue Jays system: Roy Halladay and Chris Carpenter -- meant Toronto was saying, unequivocally, we are going to win, even if it means mortgaging the future.

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December 17, 2012  08:45 AM ET

Da Mets Got 5 Players for Tom Seaver, after 1 Year ownership was forced to sell, Dickey is no Seaver, but he did win the Cy Young. Good Prospects are what they are, good prospects!

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December 17, 2012  09:10 AM ET

Don't understand the thread headline.."Jays Expose Mets Big Market Vulnerability".....since when are Mets linked as a New York superpower. ....this a fabulous deal for the Mets..added another young arm and got the catcher they desperately needed....and now I can watch Dickey beat the Yankees and Red Sox on a regular basis. ..

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December 17, 2012  10:47 AM ET
QUOTE(#4):

Don't understand the thread headline.."Jays Expose Mets Big Market Vulnerability".....since when are Mets linked as a New York superpower. ....this a fabulous deal for the Mets..added another young arm and got the catcher they desperately needed....and now I can watch Dickey beat the Yankees and Red Sox on a regular basis. ..

The Yankees are used to knucklers- they faved Tim Wakefield dozens of times. No big deal.

December 17, 2012  10:47 AM ET

faced

December 17, 2012  10:48 AM ET
QUOTE(#4):

Don't understand the thread headline.."Jays Expose Mets Big Market Vulnerability".....since when are Mets linked as a New York superpower. ....this a fabulous deal for the Mets..added another young arm and got the catcher they desperately needed....and now I can watch Dickey beat the Yankees and Red Sox on a regular basis. ..

There is a bad joke about the Yankees beating Dickey somewhere in there....

December 17, 2012  11:49 AM ET

Toronto has 2 good young catchers; only one can play. JPA is the one they know can play at the major league level. D'Arnaud is a prospect they think might be better, but no one knows that for sure. Makes sense to trade him. Putting Gose off limits while trading Syndergaard suggests they have more good young pitching farther down in the minors, and given their history of producing pitching from the farm, I think that is a good bet.

So, yes it helps Toronto now, and no they aren't "mortgaging their future." The only real question with this trade is "could Toronto have done better by trading their two prospects elsewhere?"

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December 17, 2012  11:57 AM ET

Jays Have a great Rotation that will make teams work everynight!! You have Dickey who will baffle players with his Knuckle, You have Josh Johnson who is a High K guy that battles players, You have Buerle who has the best control in the league with multiple gold gloves, You have Morrow who JJ called the Ace - Morrow when healthy is probably the filthiest pitcher in the League. You have Romero who with a bounce back year can dominate teams.... Not to mention Happ who is the best 6th starter in the League.... We have a very underrated bullpen with Santos,Janssen easily both can handle closing with Delabar and Oliver setting them up!!

December 17, 2012  12:03 PM ET

As great as the Jays starters and Pen is..... You have to face a Lineup of
1) Reyes 6) Rasmus
2) Melky 7) JPA
3) Bautista 8) Lind/Cooper
4) Encarnacion 9) Izturis/Bonifacio
5) Lawrie Bench - Davis and Gose and Sierra if needed to Call up

December 17, 2012  12:05 PM ET

Cant wait to see the Knuckle dancing in the Dome!!!!

December 17, 2012  12:11 PM ET

Hope Gibby gives the GreenLight to Swipe bags cause Davis,Boni,Gose and Lawrie can steal!!!
Wanted to see Delgado and Frank Thomas steal more bags back in the day.....

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December 17, 2012  01:33 PM ET
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Given that the Jays have already made a big investment in veteran talent this offseason, this could be a big win-win trade. I think this could have a much bigger positive impact for the Jays than the Marlins trade unless Reyes and Johnson perk up and stay healthy.

Toronto should go to jail for stealing, they did a great job this winter, Dickey will be the Ace of The Staff, Reyes will run the offense right into the playoffs, he will steal at least 60 bases! Look out!!!!
Hopefully the prospects will work out for The Mets and everyone will benefit from the Trade! Toronto is going to love this guy, he's a breath of fresh air, Standing Room only when he pitches!!!

December 17, 2012  02:42 PM ET

Say Rasmus gets hurt and you bring in Gose!! You have - Reyes,Davis,Boni,Gose,Lawrie that are going to steal bases every chance they get!!!

December 17, 2012  04:19 PM ET
QUOTE(#8):

There is a bad joke about the Yankees beating Dickey somewhere in there....

LOL

December 17, 2012  06:03 PM ET

Assuming he passes his physical and becomes a Blue Jay, do we call him Dickey bird

 
December 17, 2012  06:06 PM ET
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The Yankees are used to knucklers- they faved Tim Wakefield dozens of times. No big deal.

Yankees couldn't even hit regular pitching last year....if I remember correctly they set the record for lowest post season batting average in the history of MLB...

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