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Tee Martin's trying to keep Robert Woods at USC

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10:27 AM ET 12.22 | USC receivers coach Tee Martin is regarded as a top recruiter, an assistant adept at selling players on the benefits of coming to USC. Martin's main priority between now and mid-January is to persuade Robert Woods to remain with the Trojans. "I've definitely been working my tail off trying to recruit Robert," Martin said Friday. Woods, USC's career receptions leader, is awaiting an NFL draft evaluation. The junior has said he would wait until after the Dec. 31 Sun Bowl to decide whether he will turn pro, but he is thought to be leaning heavily toward leaving USC.

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December 22, 2012  10:37 AM ET

So...just a question. If TM persuades Woods to stay one more year....and he gets hurt or has a very bad year because of QB/OL play and loses out on millions...will TM or U$C pay the difference?

December 22, 2012  10:39 AM ET
QUOTE(#1):

So...just a question. If TM persuades Woods to stay one more year....and he gets hurt or has a very bad year because of QB/OL play and loses out on millions...will TM or U$C pay the difference?

Insurance.

December 22, 2012  10:48 AM ET

Not many offensive impact players are projected in the 1st round of the 2013 draft.

December 22, 2012  12:07 PM ET
QUOTE(#3):

Not many offensive impact players are projected in the 1st round of the 2013 draft.

Good point, but something tell me that Woods, even how good of a college player he is, just won't have that much of a impact on the NFL. Just my opinion.

December 22, 2012  12:12 PM ET
QUOTE(#1):

So...just a question. If TM persuades Woods to stay one more year....and he gets hurt or has a very bad year because of QB/OL play and loses out on millions...will TM or U$C pay the difference?

You really are a jackhole sometimes.

December 22, 2012  12:14 PM ET

Damn if T-Martin can convince Woods to stay at USC with Lee and if (big if) the Trojans can shore up their denfense just a little, then they might just win the 12 PAC South in 2013!!!

December 22, 2012  12:15 PM ET
QUOTE(#4):

Good point, but something tell me that Woods, even how good of a college player he is, just won't have that much of a impact on the NFL. Just my opinion.

I gotta disagree with you on this one OT. While I don't think he's a WR1, he has some of the best hands I have ever seen. He could definitely make a difference for many teams. Works his tail off, runs good routs, and shows up to play even when hurt. Would love to see Martin convince him, but I just don't see it happening.

December 22, 2012  12:15 PM ET
QUOTE(#5):

You really are a jackhole sometimes.

LOL, ICE, Default is really a pretty good guy.

December 22, 2012  12:18 PM ET
QUOTE(#1):

So...just a question. If TM persuades Woods to stay one more year....and he gets hurt or has a very bad year because of QB/OL play and loses out on millions...will TM or U$C pay the difference?

LOL, do you think that should apply to any college football player, that leaves school early to go to the NFL???

December 22, 2012  12:23 PM ET
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I gotta disagree with you on this one OT. While I don't think he's a WR1, he has some of the best hands I have ever seen. He could definitely make a difference for many teams. Works his tail off, runs good routs, and shows up to play even when hurt. Would love to see Martin convince him, but I just don't see it happening.

Yeah I'm sure he will declare for the NFL after the Sun Bowl. You are much closer to USC than I am.

December 22, 2012  12:26 PM ET
QUOTE(#7):

I gotta disagree with you on this one OT. While I don't think he's a WR1, he has some of the best hands I have ever seen. He could definitely make a difference for many teams. Works his tail off, runs good routs, and shows up to play even when hurt. Would love to see Martin convince him, but I just don't see it happening.

I don't see many dominant WR1's in the NFL, and I see plenty of lackluster play at WR2's & 3's. Plus it takes a couple of years of development to really make an impact. If his work ethic is as you speak he will do well.

And ... I hope he stays at USC.

I hope they ALL stay.

December 22, 2012  03:48 PM ET
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LOL, do you think that should apply to any college football player, that leaves school early to go to the NFL???

No...my point was if a coach tried to persuade a player to stay, and they got hurt, where would the coaches responsibility lie? Insurance is good, but would it cover, say, 5-10 yrs of multi-million dollar contract?

And not trying to be a Jackhole Ice, just asking a question....or is that now not allowed by some posters as well?

December 22, 2012  03:58 PM ET
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No...my point was if a coach tried to persuade a player to stay, and they got hurt, where would the coaches responsibility lie? Insurance is good, but would it cover, say, 5-10 yrs of multi-million dollar contract?And not trying to be a Jackhole Ice, just asking a question....or is that now not allowed by some posters as well?

I think without a scholly offer from a renowned program his chance to get 5-10 yrs of multimillion contracts goes down quite a bit. That being said I don't think the coaches owe him anything he doesn't work for except good advice and positive reinforcement. But who knows if he'll get better next year with a first year QB.

December 22, 2012  04:47 PM ET

Geez, guys.....

OK...a premier player for a renown program is a Junior....has a very successful year and has the opportunity to go pro....he already has a scholly and all that.

Now....one of his coaches tries, and succeeds, in convincing him to stay in school for his Senior year and forego the draft for one year. OK...he gets insurance, but does that cover the possibility of a very successful pro career...10-12 years as a WR with multiple multi-million dollar contracts....and if, during that Senior year he gets hurt and can't play....or his stock is diminished significantly..does he have recourse on that coach/school?

This wasn't pointed directly at SoCal, just happened to be the player in the article...

December 22, 2012  05:30 PM ET
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Geez, guys.....OK...a premier player for a renown program is a Junior....has a very successful year and has the opportunity to go pro....he already has a scholly and all that.Now....one of his coaches tries, and succeeds, in convincing him to stay in school for his Senior year and forego the draft for one year. OK...he gets insurance, but does that cover the possibility of a very successful pro career...10-12 years as a WR with multiple multi-million dollar contracts....and if, during that Senior year he gets hurt and can't play....or his stock is diminished significantly..does he have recourse on that coach/school?This wasn't pointed directly at SoCal, just happened to be the player in the article...

I hear what you're sayin D2, and I don't know much about player insurance but I do know his career could of ended last year or the year before, injuries are obviously random and a crap shoot, but I think if he got injured that bad next year he would probably still get his shot in the league given his skill set. But I still don't think its on the coach whether he wanted the kid to come back to play or get his degree.

December 22, 2012  06:09 PM ET
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I hear what you're sayin D2, and I don't know much about player insurance but I do know his career could of ended last year or the year before, injuries are obviously random and a crap shoot, but I think if he got injured that bad next year he would probably still get his shot in the league given his skill set. But I still don't think its on the coach whether he wanted the kid to come back to play or get his degree.

I agree Jada...but the article is about the coach trying to get him to stay rather than turn pro...and these are still impressionable kids that still listen to their coaches (agree/disagree?). In that context, while it is still the kids decision, it could still be argued that the coach had some influence.

Be that as it may, this has gotten so far off course from what I originally intended....

December 22, 2012  06:51 PM ET
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I agree Jada...but the article is about the coach trying to get him to stay rather than turn pro...and these are still impressionable kids that still listen to their coaches (agree/disagree?). In that context, while it is still the kids decision, it could still be argued that the coach had some influence.Be that as it may, this has gotten so far off course from what I originally intended....

I think impressionable kids don't always listen to their coaches. (see agents) I don't know what Lane Kiffen's intentions are..(see agents) I wish the best for him.

December 22, 2012  07:50 PM ET

Notre Dame owns the keys to the Coliseum.

We're number 1.

Okay,, carry on.

December 22, 2012  08:45 PM ET
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Notre Dame owns the keys to the Coliseum. We're number 1.Okay,, carry on.

Just how many times has ND beat USC at the L. A. Coliseum, in the last fifteen years???

 
December 22, 2012  10:04 PM ET
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No...my point was if a coach tried to persuade a player to stay, and they got hurt, where would the coaches responsibility lie? Insurance is good, but would it cover, say, 5-10 yrs of multi-million dollar contract?And not trying to be a Jackhole Ice, just asking a question....or is that now not allowed by some posters as well?

Ok, so first thing is this, sorry for coming down on you. Thought you were taking a shot at us (again). Questions are always welcomed. So let me address your actual question...

When a player gets evaluated for Draft status, that determines how much Ins he is allowed to take out on himself. It's a pretty detailed document, and one of the documented points in it is, that you are not allowed to sue the school, any coaches, or the ncaa if you actually do get hurt, and collect on the Ins.

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