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Third baseman of the future in Philly


08:14 AM ET 01.18 | Not since the beginning of Scott Rolen's career in Philadelphia have there been clear answers at third base. There has been no shortage of short-term answers, from Pedro Feliz and Placido Polanco to David Bell, Abraham Nunez and Wes Helms. This year it's seven-time All-Star Michael Young, who came to the Phillies in a trade with the Texas Rangers last month. ... The long-term answer the Phillies have been seeking for almost a quarter-century may have walked into the clubhouse on Thursday afternoon at Citizens Bank Park. That would be Cody Asche, one of seven players the team has in town this week for its annual Prospect Education Program. Asche, 22, (pronounced ASH-EE) hit .324 with an .849 OPS in his first full minor league season.

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January 18, 2013  10:05 AM ET


January 18, 2013  10:20 AM ET

Hello ello lo lo lo! Echo cho cho o. Anybody here, ere ere ere????

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January 18, 2013  11:07 AM ET

the teams DO have hard time in developing players at third base,,, wonder why??

January 18, 2013  11:08 AM ET

third basemen are easy injury either they were a lighting one year season and after that they blow their shoulder or the hips but what's new now days??

January 18, 2013  11:17 AM ET

Grading a trade right away is stupid.
there are prospects to develop,twists and turns of the regular season still to come.
there were people upset that the giants give up jonathan sanchez for melky cabrera;
there were twins fans upset about giving up A.J. pierzynski.there's no better way to look foolinsh in retrospect, with the exception of grading a draft right away.

January 18, 2013  11:24 AM ET

Grade A,
the nationals had mike morse to play first base.
i would had been ok with that as a would had sat on my hands, rested on my laurels and played angry birds for the months following the winter meetings.
but mike rizzo saw a opportunity open up when teams refused to give a third year to adam laroche.the choiche for the nationals became;
a year of mike morse. or two years of adan laroche and whatever morse brought back in a trade.

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January 18, 2013  11:31 AM ET

And what morse brought back in trade was a good pitching propect, one so nice the nationals have to acquire him twice.
Obviously the nationals thought really, really highly of A.J. COLE when he was in their system in the first time, and were likely reluctant to include him in the deal for gio gonzalez. they seem to know what they are doing with their young pitchers.after a surgery or two at least.
the nationals had a full rotation, a stacked bullpen, and a set lineup.
they need to get a prospect for morse.they got one, and he's good, well played.

January 18, 2013  11:42 AM ET

Don't underestimate how hard it is to find a lefty-hitting
catcher Who can hit a little bit.the best are starters,
obviously,like brian McCann and Joe mauer, but there's a hugh drop-off after that. you start to get into the koyie Hill Zone,or you start to talk yourself into a guy who can't really catch, like rayn doumit.
after the mmcCann/mauer tier,there is john jaso. he's probably not as good as he was last year he almost certainly isn't as good as he was last year-- but he clearly has great patience as a hitter.
this feels like a A's move from the 2003, really, deffensive reports are less flattering,
but he's still a legitimate catcher who will complement Derek norris as well.

January 18, 2013  11:47 AM ET

the only reason for the lukewarm grade is that the A's already had george kottaras, a lefty-hitting catcher, on the roster the upgrade from Kottaras to jaso is legitimate, but i'm not sure if it was enough to give up an arm like Cole.

January 18, 2013  11:57 AM ET

Grade; incomplete
The grade is incomplete because during the test, the mariners went to sharpened the pencil. they got a body part stuck in the pencil sharpener,and then it caught on fire.
As everyone else in the classroom ran for safety
,mariners stared straight ahead with ghoulish, absent grin, looking like private pyle when his head was shaved in full metal jacket.also, the pencil wasn't even a # 2, so the test wouldn't have scanned right anyway.
this one of the more unexplicable trades in recent memory.Unless you go with Occam's Razor,which would hint that this is a hail mary from a GM likely to lose his job before the end of the year let's hear from that GM, jack Zduriencik;

January 18, 2013  12:08 PM ET

its certainly give you some big pop in this lineup' zduriencik said.
you're finishing in fourth place
we were looking for a banger, and in michael we got that. it gives you a different dinamic.
you're finishing in fourth place.
when you're in a position to acquire a everyday player who hits the ball hard and far that does change your game.YOU'RE FINISHING IN FOURTH PLACE.
there is nothing you can do about that now, no series of moves that will allow the mariners to lipfrog the angels, A's, or Rangers. i can see a scenarioin which one of those teams get sucked into a injury woodchipper and doesn't make it out whole on the other side. maybe--maybe--- that means the mariners finishing third but of all the teams in baseball divisions, there is not a simpler pick than mariners in fourth' well, other than the astros in fifth' but that helps prove the point.

January 18, 2013  12:15 PM ET

that doesn't mean the mariners should avoid making the team better. that doesn't mean they should stop acquiring players. but when it comes to trading chips in for a player, the mariners did it wrong. they got a player who can't play deffense,who is coming off a down year, and who will be a free agent at the end of the season. and they moved from the fourth- place to a fourth place team., nonsense.
also that incomplete' up there is an F-, if only because A,J. CLOE made a squillion times more sense for the mariners than mike morse did.
other than that, the trade seems like it worked out well for everyone.

January 18, 2013  01:11 PM ET

What's really funny is ... Michael Young is not really a 3rd baseman ...

January 18, 2013  01:56 PM ET

Just read the scouting report on Asche and Philly might have look beyond this guy for the long term answer @ 3B.

Quote from Scouting Report: "Tweener profile for me. Doesn???t fit defensively where the bat would play. Doesn???t have the offensive juice to fit where the glove can work. Fringy MLB projection. Overall 4 or bench role."

January 18, 2013  02:36 PM ET

What's really funny is ... Michael Young is not really a 3rd baseman ...

Was thinking the same thing

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January 18, 2013  06:22 PM ET

If the man was that good, you should have brought back Palanco for one year instead of overpaying for Young and let Asche play in 14.

January 18, 2013  11:45 PM ET

It's a tough defensive position requiring a good arm and agility, but teams also expect offense from the position. It's hard to find guys who can pound the ball and also swoop in and barehand a chopper or bunt down the line and make a strong throw to first, all without being dogged by injuries. Rolen was an excellent all around 3Bman, but injuries soon dragged him down.



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