Trade, pay cut still on table for Vick

i think he'll take a paycut to stay w/ the team, i think he's excited about playing in a spread offense...the eagles will still prolly take Geno to groom

It really is time for the Eagles to scoop everything that's not working into the dumpster and start over. If they can get trade value for Vick, fine, but my guess his Vick's agent will be working the phones in free agency.

My advice to the other 31 NFL GMs is to let the machine screen your calls for a while.

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Originally posted 08:08 AM ET  01.29 by EAZEBACK

i think he'll take a paycut to stay w/ the team, i think he's excited about playing in a spread offense...the eagles will still prolly take Geno to groom

I'd imagine that if the Eagles plan to draft Geno Smith (if KC doesn't take him), then it will be at #4 overall, and Vick will likely be out the door. I bet Vick is a goner in Philly any way you cut it, guy just ain't that good.

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Originally posted 08:14 AM ET  01.29 by I Must Break You

I'd imagine that if the Eagles plan to draft Geno Smith (if KC doesn't take him), then it will be at #4 overall, and Vick will likely be out the door. I bet Vick is a goner in Philly any way you cut it, guy just ain't that good.

he's alot betr qb than most teams have

besides that geno isnt as ready as tha qbs that were takn last yr, i doubt he'd b ready to start week 1 of the season

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Originally posted 08:38 AM ET  01.29 by EAZEBACK

he's alot betr qb than most teams have

I don't know I'd put him in the bottom half of starters. He isn't accurate at all, can't read a defense and takes off running before letting plays develop. Also his tendency to run has caused him to be injured all the time, can't be any help if he's always on the sideline. I personally think he may have to settle for a back-up job or go to a team that's looking for someone to compete. My guess for Vick in 2013, the N.Y. Jets... he can compete with Sanchez and JaMarcus Russell.

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Originally posted 08:38 AM ET  01.29 by EAZEBACK

he's alot betr qb than most teams have

His record of injury says otherwise. It's been a long, long time since he played a full season of football, and his age is already catching up with him.

But, he will be a decent backup somewhere, and might even earn a starter spot somewhere. He's got a year or two left if he can stay healthy.

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Originally posted 08:45 AM ET  01.29 by EAZEBACK

besides that geno isnt as ready as tha qbs that were takn last yr, i doubt he'd b ready to start week 1 of the season

Ready or not, teams rarely sit their 1st round QB anymore.

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Originally posted 08:52 AM ET  01.29 by I Must Break You

Ready or not, teams rarely sit their 1st round QB anymore.

and u c most of em wash out and recover YEARS later if they recover at all

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Originally posted 08:47 AM ET  01.29 by Debbie Does

His record of injury says otherwise. It's been a long, long time since he played a full season of football, and his age is already catching up with him.But, he will be a decent backup somewhere, and might even earn a starter spot somewhere. He's got a year or two left if he can stay healthy.

true enuf he does get inj alot which is y u have a qb to run ur system as backup jus in case that hapns and if it does hopefully its in the 2nd half of the season so ur young qb doesnt have to get thrown to the wolves in week 1

If you pay him the 3 million, you either start him or trade him

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Originally posted 09:02 AM ET  01.29 by EAZEBACK

and u c most of em wash out and recover YEARS later if they recover at all

I'm not making a comment if it helps or hurts their development, it's just the way it is. I fully expect Geno Smith will be the starting QB for whichever teams drafts him by week 1. The only recent QBs I can think of that have sat any significant portion of their rookie years would be Jake Locker, Tim Tebow and Brady Quinn... heck even Matt Leinart started 11 games his rookie year.

i tha words of clubber lang......i pity tha fool!

*in

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Originally posted 08:38 AM ET  01.29 by EAZEBACK

he's alot betr qb than most teams have

He's an inaccurate passer, he runs more than he needs to and he's so fragile at this point his name should be Michelle. No thanks.

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Originally posted 09:46 AM ET  01.29 by danimal09752

He's an inaccurate passer, he runs more than he needs to and he's so fragile at this point his name should be Michelle. No thanks.

in kellys system he'll have designed runs and play actions that will open up the pass game....hes not super accurate this much is true but when healthy i give him a more than serviceable grade

Vick is finished. Any money a team spends on this has-been is wasted.

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Originally posted 09:14 AM ET  01.29 by I Must Break You

I'm not making a comment if it helps or hurts their development, it's just the way it is. I fully expect Geno Smith will be the starting QB for whichever teams drafts him by week 1. The only recent QBs I can think of that have sat any significant portion of their rookie years would be Jake Locker, Tim Tebow and Brady Quinn... heck even Matt Leinart started 11 games his rookie year.

Colin Kaepernick sat his first year and half of this season.

Does anyone really thnk this guy is worth anything? He has accomplished almost nothing in his career. Why is he still in the league...I guess desparate teams can't distinguish between value and media hype.