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Is it over for Cards Carpenter?

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08:12 AM ET 02.06 | By attire alone, the message was ominous. When general manager John Mozeliak and manager Mike Matheny walked into Tuesday afternoon's news conference at Busch Stadium, both men wore business attire: coat, tie and firm expressions. This was not business casual, but rather serious business. A possibility the club had confronted numerous times but somehow avoided in recent years had become reality. On Friday, Chris Carpenter, his voice wavering, phoned Mozeliak to inform him: "I can't pitch." Carpenter didn't mean he couldn't pitch that day, or this week, or couldn't take his first couple turns during next month's Grapefruit League play. This time, the implication is Carpenter can't pitch for good.

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February 6, 2013  08:29 AM ET

"Carpenter long insisted he'd stop pitching if it compromised his ability to lift his children. That day is here. A pitching badass that sometimes profanely exuded his will may now be forgiven his fear."

You did good Mr. Carpenter. Now go and lift your children, and, hopefully, your future grandchildren with impunity from fear. Go in peace knowing you did your best.

February 6, 2013  08:37 AM ET
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"Carpenter long insisted he'd stop pitching if it compromised his ability to lift his children. That day is here. A pitching badass that sometimes profanely exuded his will may now be forgiven his fear."You did good Mr. Carpenter. Now go and lift your children, and, hopefully, your future grandchildren with impunity from fear. Go in peace knowing you did your best.

Indeed - I have loved his contribution through the years. Sorry to see him have to potentially leave in this manner - but as you said... Go lift your children....

February 6, 2013  09:03 AM ET

I will never forget the deciding game of the NLDS in 2011.... 3 hit shutout.... What an effort...

February 6, 2013  09:18 AM ET
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I will never forget the deciding game of the NLDS in 2011.... 3 hit shutout.... What an effort...

He came up big in some very important games. Unfortunate that his career ends this way.

February 6, 2013  09:25 AM ET

He pushed hard to come back early - and I think this time - it cost him... But won't begrudge the effort...

February 6, 2013  09:36 AM ET
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He pushed hard to come back early - and I think this time - it cost him... But won't begrudge the effort...

Absolutely correct. Big game pitcher that always gave the effort, even as he struggled with injury at times.

February 6, 2013  09:39 AM ET
QUOTE(#7):

Absolutely correct. Big game pitcher that always gave the effort, even as he struggled with injury at times.

Of a few "tough as nails" competitors I really liked (go figure). Always gave his best, even when he was off during a game. Would tough it out... Try to keep the team in the game.... Man I love watching him pitch.....

February 6, 2013  09:50 AM ET

Anyone want to come over here for Thread o' Day....

February 6, 2013  10:01 AM ET
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Anyone want to come over here for Thread o' Day....

Agreed.

February 6, 2013  10:02 AM ET
QUOTE(#6):

He pushed hard to come back early - and I think this time - it cost him... But won't begrudge the effort...

I don't know that he pushed. It sounds like the problem isn't correctable. Sometimes nerve damage is permanent.

February 6, 2013  10:08 AM ET
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I don't know that he pushed. It sounds like the problem isn't correctable. Sometimes nerve damage is permanent.

4192 and I are at the jeter thread... ifn' you're interested.

February 6, 2013  10:10 AM ET
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I don't know that he pushed. It sounds like the problem isn't correctable. Sometimes nerve damage is permanent.

ANd true - it just may be permanent.... But hope not "permanent" to the point that he can't lift his kids...

February 6, 2013  10:55 AM ET

Carp is done...

He is 37 and is now looking at back to back years being injured and has been injured often during his career.

StL needs to take his dough, since insurance will cover it and either trade for another arm, or invest money into Lohse and bring along the young pitchers...

February 6, 2013  10:59 AM ET
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Carp is done...He is 37 and is now looking at back to back years being injured and has been injured often during his career.StL needs to take his dough, since insurance will cover it and either trade for another arm, or invest money into Lohse and bring along the young pitchers...

According to Mo at the news conference yesterday, they told Miller, Rosie, Lynn and Kelly to come to spring training "ready to start".

They won't be going after Lohse

Carp is a fierce competitor. He may not have won any popularity contests with the opposing team but he, and we, didn't care.

February 6, 2013  11:12 AM ET
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According to Mo at the news conference yesterday, they told Miller, Rosie, Lynn and Kelly to come to spring training "ready to start".They won't be going after LohseCarp is a fierce competitor. He may not have won any popularity contests with the opposing team but he, and we, didn't care.

Well...considering that Lohse has not signed yet means the Cards might get him on the cheap.

The guy won 16-18 games last season and had a mid 3.00 ERA

Unless they see something in the youth that is better, then so be it but Kyle is a solid arm and would be #2 or #3 behind Wainright and Lynn.

February 6, 2013  11:36 AM ET

I only hope Carpenter hasn't caused himself serious issues for the rest of his life. We'll miss him, but he needs to be done before he cripples himself. Thanks and good luck with the rest of your life. I'm assuming there will be a job somewhere in the Cardinals organization.

February 6, 2013  11:44 AM ET
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Well...considering that Lohse has not signed yet means the Cards might get him on the cheap.The guy won 16-18 games last season and had a mid 3.00 ERAUnless they see something in the youth that is better, then so be it but Kyle is a solid arm and would be #2 or #3 behind Wainright and Lynn.

I'm only repeating what Mo said in the news conference yesterday. He was asked directly about it

I've never seen a Boras client sign "on the cheap". I've got nothing against Lohse - with the young pitching the team has ready, I just don't see them spending a ton of money on any pitcher

February 6, 2013  11:47 AM ET

Lohse has signed on the cheap before. That's how we got him in the first place. I think the Cardinals will go with the youngsters and wait for someone else to sign Lohse so they can get their draft pick.

Anyone know if there's a drop dead date where the Cardinals no longer get the pick if the season starts?

 
February 6, 2013  12:00 PM ET

He can leave the game with his head held high.

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