Count Boston out of Lohse sweepstakes

Will be very interesting to see who this draft pick they refuse to give up (44th overall) is, and how good he turns out to be.

Stock answer these days is that teams don't want to surrender a draft pick.

Seems to me the real answer is: "If you lower your asking price and total years then maybe we can talk after all."

Doesn't matter - this is the year of the Blue Jay.

You would think the Cards would be back in the mix after learning that Chris Carpenter appears to be done.

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Originally posted 08:47 AM ET  02.07 by THE BISHOP!

You would think the Cards would be back in the mix after learning that Chris Carpenter appears to be done.

The fact that they are not is all you need to know.

16-3 with a 2.86 ERA and nobody is interested? His stats the year before aren't too shabby either. This is strictly a money and years issue.

Teams certainly have to be interested, wild guess his agent is Bor-A-S-S.....

Looks like The Mets get a shot at a guy nobody wants!!!

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Originally posted 08:40 AM ET  02.07 by South_Florida_Sports

Doesn't matter - this is the year of the Blue Jay.

quite frankly, I will be surpised if the Jays make the playoffs. I don't thin t hey did themselves any big favors with the pitchers they signed. None of them will win 20 games this year and at least one of them will struggle to be a .500 pitcher.

The Cards offered 26 13 million for one year, he turn it down, and now they are turning their attention to their young pitchers for one to step forward and take Carpenter place in the rotation.

Sweepstakes? I guess we won that time.

No wait a second... give him 3 years 39 million!

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Originally posted 09:03 AM ET  02.07 by jnorman41

The fact that they are not is all you need to know.

Exactly right.

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Originally posted 09:10 AM ET  02.07 by Sports Know it all

16-3 with a 2.86 ERA and nobody is interested? His stats the year before aren't too shabby either. This is strictly a money and years issue. Teams certainly have to be interested, wild guess his agent is Bor-A-S-S.....

Lohse is decent and certainly had a good year. He will likely never have a year that good again though, and he specializes on beating the horrible offenses. His playoff record against better offenses is abysmal. I'm happy to see the Cards move on from him.

wiseup: Loshe is out of sweepstakes, Right now he should reduce his demands if he wanys to pitch . Its obvious no team thinks he is worth his asking price. He probably regrets not accepting St.L offer after last year.

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Originally posted 09:03 AM ET  02.07 by jnorman41

The fact that they are not is all you need to know.

same thing for the boras client,,things aren;t looking too good in boras house,,,

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Originally posted 09:22 AM ET  02.07 by 4192jc (Don't give up!)

quite frankly, I will be surpised if the Jays make the playoffs. I don't thin t hey did themselves any big favors with the pitchers they signed. None of them will win 20 games this year and at least one of them will struggle to be a .500 pitcher.

I see what you are saying here. Chemistry could be an issue IMO.

Winning 20 games is a rare feat these days. How many 20 game winners did the Giants have last year? Zero....

There were only 4 pitchers that won 20 games in 2012.

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Originally posted 12:59 PM ET  02.07 by Mondo Jay

There were only 4 pitchers that won 20 games in 2012.

Two of those guys were on playoff teams that exited quickly. (Price & Gonzalez)

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Originally posted 01:02 PM ET  02.07 by Mondo Jay

Two of those guys were on playoff teams that exited quickly. (Price & Gonzalez)

Price and the Rays made the playoffs? That's news to all of us.

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Originally posted 08:40 AM ET  02.07 by South_Florida_Sports

Doesn't matter - this is the year of the Blue Jay.

Two years ago (with the acquisition of Crawford and Gonzo) was the year of the Red Sox. Or so it was said by all the sports pundits talking about "an embarassment of riches."

Not so much.