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04:11 PM ET 02.19 | North Carolina reportedly has an offer to join the Big Ten, according to Maryland's 247 site - the same site that first reported Maryland and Rutgers would join the conference.

The site Tweeted that three ACC schools could move to the Big Ten, with Virginia the most likely, Georgia Tech a possibility, and UNC with an offer on the table. Of those three, the Tar Heels would be the biggest get for the 14-strong Big Ten, as they boast arguably the strongest football program of the three - although, admittedly, it's slim pickings - as well as a top-notch hoops team.

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February 19, 2013  04:26 PM ET

First Duke vs. Maryland now there goes Duke vs. NC . . . .

February 19, 2013  04:39 PM ET

I had heard a rumor a while back that the SEC might be interested in UNC as well. I don't see the fit for the SEC like I do the B1G. In the SEC they would be the equivalent to Missouri in football but would probably do pretty darn good in basketball. In the B1G they have a chance in football.

February 19, 2013  05:05 PM ET

I'm hoping these teams get B1G invites:

UNC
UVA
GT
FSU

No need to take pot shots at FSU's "bad" academics (not AAU, but there are reasons for that). Fact is, we would bring one of the two biggest states the BTN has a shot at: FL (and it's not looking like UT is coming to bring TX).

This would bring the B1G into the South, where the population is shifting and where a lot of the FB talent lies. These four schools keep the contiguous footprint, and FSU's president recently released a plan for bringing the school into the Top 25 public universities.

That would still only be 18 schools, leaving two slots open to get to 20. Duke, if necessary as a partner for UNC, but personally I'd approach UT and ND. But there are plenty of other options at that point.

February 19, 2013  05:30 PM ET

The person who wrote this article must be a Tar Heel fan when he puts their football team ahead of Tech.

February 19, 2013  05:31 PM ET

Can't see the B1G going over 16 schools but . . . who knows?

February 19, 2013  05:35 PM ET
QUOTE(#3):

I'm hoping these teams get B1G invites:UNCUVAGTFSUNo need to take pot shots at FSU's "bad" academics (not AAU, but there are reasons for that). Fact is, we would bring one of the two biggest states the BTN has a shot at: FL (and it's not looking like UT is coming to bring TX). This would bring the B1G into the South, where the population is shifting and where a lot of the FB talent lies. These four schools keep the contiguous footprint, and FSU's president recently released a plan for bringing the school into the Top 25 public universities. That would still only be 18 schools, leaving two slots open to get to 20. Duke, if necessary as a partner for UNC, but personally I'd approach UT and ND. But there are plenty of other options at that point.

3 out of 4 are good. I would want Duke over FSU. Getting Florida's market makes sense but Miami would make more sense over FSU since it would bring in a bigger market share.

The teams I would want in addition to yours (UNC UVA GT) if I was the B1G would be Miami, Duke and Vanderbilt. Miami is a bigger market than northern Florida. As a long shot how about Boston College? It is a good academic school and they could carry a potentially huge untapped market. Worst case, Uconn would jump at an offer but I do not see it coming from the B1G.

February 19, 2013  06:11 PM ET
QUOTE(#6):

3 out of 4 are good. I would want Duke over FSU. Getting Florida's market makes sense but Miami would make more sense over FSU since it would bring in a bigger market share. The teams I would want in addition to yours (UNC UVA GT) if I was the B1G would be Miami, Duke and Vanderbilt. Miami is a bigger market than northern Florida. As a long shot how about Boston College? It is a good academic school and they could carry a potentially huge untapped market. Worst case, Uconn would jump at an offer but I do not see it coming from the B1G.

Have to disagree on UM delivering a larger market share. They are in a big city, but no one bothers to go to their games. Here (and notice that this is when the football team makes its big entrance):

http://www.wtsp.com/images/640/360/2/assetpool/images/120915074643_Hu rricanes-stadium.jpg

The combo of FSU and B1G alumni in the state would get the BTN on all over the state, and FSU draws very well nationally.

Plus, the B1G is a big, state university conference. I think NW is the only exception (Purdue, too, but they're at least a big school). UM, Duke, Vandy and BC are all small private schools. GT is, too, but it's the only GA team the B1G has a shot at (and GA's a valuable state, high in population and talent).

FSU (with those other three) would solidify the B1G as THE conference. Opting to stay out of FL would be a mistake in the long term, IMO. And, honestly, UNC, UVA, GT and (insert 4th) probably won't do much to raise the B1G's football profile (neither did MD and RU). FSU would help shore up that side, and prevent things from getting too watered down.

February 19, 2013  06:13 PM ET
February 19, 2013  06:40 PM ET

Shortly after Maryland and Rutgers joined the B1G, I started a rumor on these threads that UVA and UNC were going to join the B1G. I was partly kidding, but I did base my picks on criteria that Delaney outlined. The targets for conference expansion expand the conference footprint, the schools are the principle schools of their states, and the schools fit the B1G academic profile. Sorry EWO, but if the B1G wants to get into the Sunshine state, da Gaduhs would be the target school.

February 19, 2013  08:13 PM ET

North Carolina... really? I don't see it. NC would give up big rivalries in-state (NCSU & Duke). I guess for football (which seems to be driving this process) it is not as big a deal, but in hoops? I agree with Yooper, I don't see them going past 16 teams.... but Delaney has been ahead of the curve and may go bigger. If the B1G can get schools like GaTech, Duke and/or NC it would be a coup. If the B1G takes the cream of the ACC, then I have to believe that Notre Dame might join as well.

February 19, 2013  08:36 PM ET
QUOTE(#7):

Have to disagree on UM delivering a larger market share. They are in a big city, but no one bothers to go to their games. Here (and notice that this is when the football team makes its big entrance):http://www.wtsp.com/images/640/360/2/assetpool/images/1209150746 43_Hu rricanes-stadium.jpgThe combo of FSU and B1G alumni in the state would get the BTN on all over the state, and FSU draws very well nationally. Plus, the B1G is a big, state university conference. I think NW is the only exception (Purdue, too, but they're at least a big school). UM, Duke, Vandy and BC are all small private schools. GT is, too, but it's the only GA team the B1G has a shot at (and GA's a valuable state, high in population and talent).FSU (with those other three) would solidify the B1G as THE conference. Opting to stay out of FL would be a mistake in the long term, IMO. And, honestly, UNC, UVA, GT and (insert 4th) probably won't do much to raise the B1G's football profile (neither did MD and RU). FSU would help shore up that side, and prevent things from getting too watered down.

For market share, it is about number of televisions not fans. The network is what the conference wants to expand. The B1G would most likely get more leverage in contract discussions if they can get more people in an area.

February 19, 2013  10:23 PM ET

I guess I should be happy that the B1G is looking in the Eastern Time Zone. I think it does put too much strain on the B-ball teams to have a lot of mid-week road games with two hours time difference, then fly back to campus. Probably more a concern for the Women's teams as I feel they could early a.m. classes the next day.

February 19, 2013  11:43 PM ET
QUOTE(#3):

I'm hoping these teams get B1G invites:
UNC
UVA
GT
FSU

One of these things is not like the others,
One of these things just doesn't belong,
Can you tell which thing is not like the others
By the time I finish my song?

February 19, 2013  11:44 PM ET

Sorry, I know you said no cheap shots...my bad. I have nothing agaist fsu fwiw

February 20, 2013  12:52 AM ET

I sense Delany's top targets are UVa, UNC and GT; it's #18 where things get tricky. He and conference athletic directors would probably prefer Florida State, which isn't AAU and probably still lacks the academic heft to please conference university presidents. Their choice for #18? Duke (or, as a dark horse, Vanderbilt, which might choose to leave the SEC in order to give itself a more national profile; right now, Vandy is perceived as a regional institution, more along the lines of Wake Forest than Duke). I'd be very surprised to see the Big Ten go to 20 members -- with 18, you can continue to have an 18-game men's and women's basketball schedule, playing one opponent home-and-home and the other 16 either home or away.

February 20, 2013  06:54 AM ET
QUOTE(#10):

If the B1G takes the cream of the ACC, then I have to believe that Notre Dame might join as well.

Or drive them to the Big 12. I think that is more lilely than joining the B1G.

February 20, 2013  11:28 AM ET
QUOTE(#16):

Or drive them to the Big 12. I think that is more lilely than joining the B1G.

Even though I don't like it, glad the B1G is in the position it is in.

It's going to get very interesting.

February 20, 2013  12:09 PM ET
QUOTE(#17):

Even though I don't like it, glad the B1G is in the position it is in.It's going to get very interesting.

I hear ya. I gave up on the "good ol days" when the B1G added Penn State. I always thought Penn State should have been the anchor school for a football centric Big East. Since none of that will hapeen, might as well be in the driver's seat. IDWT (in Delaney we trust).

February 20, 2013  01:45 PM ET
QUOTE(#18):

I hear ya. I gave up on the "good ol days" when the B1G added Penn State. I always thought Penn State should have been the anchor school for a football centric Big East. Since none of that will hapeen, might as well be in the driver's seat. IDWT (in Delaney we trust).

DWHAC (Do We Have A Choice) ;-)

 
February 20, 2013  10:07 PM ET
QUOTE(#11):

For market share, it is about number of televisions not fans. The network is what the conference wants to expand. The B1G would most likely get more leverage in contract discussions if they can get more people in an area.

I'm well aware of that. And FSU + B1G alumni will get the BTN on in Miami, Tampa, Orlando, Jacksonville, etc. more easily than UM would. FSU would deliver the state.

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