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06:00 AM ET 02.21 | Apparently, they'll know the way to San Jose. The commissioner's office has provided the Oakland Athletics with tentative guidelines for a potential move to San Jose, according to three people familiar with the matter but not authorized to discuss it. The existence of the guidelines does not necessarily mean the A's will move to San Jose soon, or at all. However, if the A's can satisfy the concerns of the league office, Commissioner Bud Selig could let club owners decide whether to approve the move. The San Francisco Giants hold territorial rights to San Jose and oppose the proposed move there by the A's. The discussions between the A's and Major League Baseball do not affect the Giants' ability to challenge such a move.

The Los Angeles Times

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February 21, 2013  09:33 AM ET

Typical Bud not having the stones to make a tough decision. San Jose is Giants' territory. The A's know this. Bud knows this. Just tell the A's no. Don't make the other owners do it.

February 21, 2013  09:49 AM ET

Does anyone know the legal standing of territorial rights? These teams are already in the same metro area. It's not like a new team is trying to move into the area.

February 21, 2013  12:02 PM ET
QUOTE(#2):

Does anyone know the legal standing of territorial rights? These teams are already in the same metro area. It's not like a new team is trying to move into the area.

San Jose is actually about 10 times farther from San Fran than Oakland. This makes no sense.

February 21, 2013  12:11 PM ET

They are going to San Jose, AL/NL, territorial rights?

February 21, 2013  12:32 PM ET
QUOTE(#3):

San Jose is actually about 10 times farther from San Fran than Oakland. This makes no sense.

actually, they are just about exactly the same distance from san jose.

February 21, 2013  01:20 PM ET
QUOTE(#1):

Typical Bud not having the stones to make a tough decision. San Jose is Giants' territory. The A's know this. Bud knows this. Just tell the A's no. Don't make the other owners do it.

I lived in San Jose from 1980-1990. At least then it was about 50-50 A's fans and Giants fans. There are probably more Giants fans there now, but much of that is due to the Giants recent success (fair weather fans).
I don't see much loss of fan base to the Giants if the A's move to SJ. The Giants will still own SF, Marin, and San Mateo County and may pick up some new fans from Alameda county.

February 21, 2013  01:23 PM ET

The Giants will fight this move to the death because the San Jose A's would become the darlings of ultra-affluent Silicon Valley. The San Jose A's - and their new ballpark - would also draw fans from the San Francisco Peninsula - which has always been a Giants stronghold. This relocation would be very bad for the Giants as thousands of well paid employees from Google, Apple, Cisco, et al, would flock to the A's state of the art ballpark and in so doing bcome A's fans.

February 21, 2013  01:32 PM ET
QUOTE(#5):

actually, they are just about exactly the same distance from san jose.

He's saying that Oakland is right across the bridge from San Fransisco while San Jose is about 40 miles from San Fransisco.

February 21, 2013  04:08 PM ET
QUOTE(#3):

San Jose is actually about 10 times farther from San Fran than Oakland. This makes no sense.

It's about the same distance...in fact, it is a few miles closer to Oakland than it is to SF. Anyone ever heard of Google maps?

February 21, 2013  04:22 PM ET
QUOTE(#9):

It's about the same distance...in fact, it is a few miles closer to Oakland than it is to SF. Anyone ever heard of Google maps?

I was a little bit off but you need a new map. Googe Maps shows dowtown Oakland to downtown San Fran as 12 miles. San Fran to San Jose is about 50 miles. Roughly 5 times farther.

February 21, 2013  04:23 PM ET

A lilttle over 4 times...

February 21, 2013  04:26 PM ET
QUOTE(#8):

He's saying that Oakland is right across the bridge from San Fransisco while San Jose is about 40 miles from San Fransisco.

Thank you.

February 21, 2013  06:40 PM ET

the A's would likely always be the A's,,,,,

February 21, 2013  06:45 PM ET
QUOTE(#1):

Typical Bud not having the stones to make a tough decision. San Jose is Giants' territory. The A's know this. Bud knows this. Just tell the A's no. Don't make the other owners do it.

They don't OWN San Jose, too high handed. SF fans who are in San Jose are not going to switch allegiance but maybe younger fans or those who don't really follow baseball now. Here's the thing....the Giants will likely pick up some fans from the East Bay so what's the problem???

February 21, 2013  07:54 PM ET

AL and NL, should be a non-issue. California has a huge population. If there can be an NL and AL team in NY and (sort of) LA, then there can be two teams in northern California.

February 21, 2013  10:49 PM ET

The city of oakland just doesn't care about their sports teams.
The mayor, the owners of both raiders and a's, the fans...there is no interest in these teams beyond a handful of true, loyal, misplaced fans.

The amount of money the oakland a's would have to pay the San Francisco Giants for territorial rights to San Jose would be unheard of even in this day-and-age of ludicrous spending.

I encourage you, a's fans, to patiently consider the truest definition of a slug. You will be reminded of the man who owns you and your team, the absent mayor who represents your ideals and beliefs, the unsteady commissioner who ultimately decides what is best for the sport, and finally You Yourself. Because you are as critical to this decision as a slug.

February 22, 2013  12:07 AM ET

Come on Giants. You are selling out every darn game, win or lose. And you are not selling out every game because of fans coming from San Jose. You have just as many coming from the East Bay. This "territorial rights" is nothing but nonsense. Perhaps your AAA team should move to Oakland.

February 22, 2013  12:15 AM ET

The A's already get fans from the Peninsula. The Bay Bridge, San Mateo/Hayward Bridge and the Dumbarton Bridges get fans from the Peninsula to BART stations or the Nimitz Freeway. If the A's thrive in San Jose and the Giants are thriving at AT&T Park in The City, what is the big issue? This would be great for the Bay Area, the fans of baseball and the teams. With the 49ers practically moving to San Jose (Santa Clara borders San Jose) and who knows, the Raiders could possibly move into the Niners new stadium, this move for the A's needs to happen. And I am a Giants fan!!!

February 22, 2013  12:17 AM ET

Really, would it be better for the Bay Area's economy if the A's move to Portland, OR or Vancouver, BC Canada??? Or Charlotte, NC???

 
February 22, 2013  12:56 AM ET
QUOTE(#14):

They don't OWN San Jose, too high handed. SF fans who are in San Jose are not going to switch allegiance but maybe younger fans or those who don't really follow baseball now. Here's the thing....the Giants will likely pick up some fans from the East Bay so what's the problem???

The problem is Giants ownership bought the team under the condition that they got territorial rights to Santa Clara county. A's ownership bought with full knowledge that it wasn't getting Santa Clara county and paid a lower price because of it. The Giants have spent millions of dollars cultivating a fan base in Santa Clara county. Why should they just give it to the A's?

It's the same thing as buying a nice piece of land because you think it has value. Your neighbor buys a cheaper lot next door. Should he get to build his house on your lot just because it's nicer and he wants to?

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