Pirates owner demands progress, everyone on notice

This attitude isn't giving much respect to the most consecutive below-.500 seasons record.

No respect for tradition.

Two post All Star break collapses in a row. They can't afford a third.

Remember back in the 70's when they were a force to be reckoned with? Guys like Clemente, Stargell, Dave Cash, Manny Sanguillen, Steve Blass, Richie Hebner? They made another run later on with guys like Andy Van Slyke, Barry Bonds, and company.

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Originally posted 10:11 AM ET  02.21 by Yogi-Zen

Remember back in the 70's when they were a force to be reckoned with? Guys like Clemente, Stargell, Dave Cash, Manny Sanguillen, Steve Blass, Richie Hebner? They made another run later on with guys like Andy Van Slyke, Barry Bonds, and company.

The Lumber Company......man, those Pirate teams could hit back then. Dave Parker was another one.

When the only guy you add is Russell Mendoza Line Martin, then you are wheel spinning. Lowest payroll in MLB and it will show.

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Originally posted 10:53 AM ET  02.21 by 50yearfan

When the only guy you add is Russell Mendoza Line Martin, then you are wheel spinning. Lowest ayroll in MLB and it will show.

Lower than the Astros? They barely have any major league players on their roster.

Clint Hurdle to the Gm and owner, "Dave Parker isn't walking through that door, Willie Stargell isn't walking through that door, heck, even Kent Tekulve isn't walking through that door...we stink and it's your fault."

"The idea that an extension is somehow a free pass is exactly the message I would not want to send, and not the message Clint heard."

Then why extend Hurdle before he guides the Pirates to a winnning season? And why after the two worst 2nd half collaspes in MLB history!!!

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Originally posted 10:30 AM ET  02.21 by ElevenRingsSTL

The Lumber Company......man, those Pirate teams could hit back then. Dave Parker was another one.

And Lumber and Lightening that came right after with Omar Marino leading the way on the base paths.

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Originally posted 10:53 AM ET  02.21 by 50yearfan

When the only guy you add is Russell Mendoza Line Martin, then you are wheel spinning. Lowest payroll in MLB and it will show.

Don't forget the pitcher who broke his nonthrowing arm scaring his kids at Christmas!

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Originally posted 10:11 AM ET  02.21 by Yogi-Zen

Remember back in the 70's when they were a force to be reckoned with? Guys like Clemente, Stargell, Dave Cash, Manny Sanguillen, Steve Blass, Richie Hebner? They made another run later on with guys like Andy Van Slyke, Barry Bonds, and company.

<SIGH!>

We are talking about the Pirates, right? The Pittsburgh Pirates?

"Hey Fowler! Don't you know how I hate losing to the Pirates?"

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Originally posted 08:12 AM ET  02.21 by Flea Biscuit

They'll find their way into last place again

Especially now that Houston is out of the NL Central.

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Originally posted 10:30 AM ET  02.21 by ElevenRingsSTL

The Lumber Company......man, those Pirate teams could hit back then. Dave Parker was another one.

Uh how 'bout Bill Madlock amd Al Oliver?

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Originally posted 12:36 PM ET  02.21 by Prayin' Utleys

Uh how 'bout Bill Madlock amd Al Oliver?

And The Hit Man, Mike Easler.

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Originally posted 08:12 AM ET  02.21 by Flea Biscuit

They'll find their way into last place again

its more easy to adjust to lost games and season after season,,,,than win a championship,,should we let know the pirates owner such sad news????

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Originally posted 12:13 PM ET  02.21 by THE BISHOP!

Especially now that Houston is out of the NL Central.

lets not forget the albastros miami marlins,,there is more than just a simple battle!!!!

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Originally posted 09:55 AM ET  02.21 by The Moose

Two post All Star break collapses in a row. They can't afford a third.

likely the pirates would stay low profile the least the franchise can do,,,,

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Originally posted 11:10 AM ET  02.21 by ElevenRingsSTL

Lower than the Astros? They barely have any major league players on their roster.

the pirates would need to do things 3 changes/their manager most go/their hitting coach most go/their pitching coach most go/new chemistry its needed desperately in pitsburg in order to become a serious competetor!!!