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Joeckel a lock at No. 1?

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07:58 AM ET 02.28 | Chiefs coach Andy Reid and GM John Dorsey didn't think enough of the 2013 QB draft crop, instead swinging a deal for Alex Smith. Already, mock drafts everywhere are quickly adjusting to the Smith trade (which becomes official March 12) and Texas A&M left tackle Luke Joeckel is being typed in as the projected pick for the Chiefs at No. 1. That's certainly possible, perhaps even likely. ... Selecting Joeckel, though, isn't a slam dunk. The Chiefs could still opt to sign pending free agent Branden Albert, who has had back issues but still is regarded as one of the top left tackles in the league. The Chiefs likely will tip their hand regarding their top pick if they let Albert walk in free agency next month.

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February 28, 2013  08:15 AM ET

Cassel, Quinn and Stanzi had better start wearing shin pads all the time, because you're going to see a lot of guys kicking the tires at Honest Andy's Used Quarterbacks, now conveniently located in beautiful Kansas City. So, after all that snow melts next July, hurry on down to Honest Andy's Used Quarterbacks, barely a football's throw from the Interstate, and pick up the deal of the century!

February 28, 2013  08:18 AM ET

They could also choose to trade out of the #1 pick.

February 28, 2013  08:43 AM ET
QUOTE(#2):

They could also choose to trade out of the #1 pick.

Which is likely, if they re-sign Albert

February 28, 2013  08:53 AM ET
QUOTE(#3):

Which is likely, if they re-sign Albert

Or thye may go defense with the #1, but trading down to get more picks makes some sense. Except for who would want to give up enough to move up???

February 28, 2013  08:58 AM ET

The draft is deep at certain positions (cornerback and safety for example), so trading out of the first pick for a couple of lower picks makes sense if your team has needs at those positions. You can get a good player you can also afford to keep. I don't know enough about KC to know exactly what they need, but judging from last season, it looks like they need just about everything.

February 28, 2013  09:25 AM ET

Until the terms of the trade are official, it is silly to speculate. I would not assume the Chiefs gave up a "boat load " of picks in the trade.

February 28, 2013  09:42 AM ET

Heard pretty amazing stat on mike and mike, Todd blackledge is last QB they drafted who won a game for them, in 1987!!!Last 10 Qbs they drafted never won a game for them. Incredible!

February 28, 2013  09:44 AM ET
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The draft is deep at certain positions (cornerback and safety for example), so trading out of the first pick for a couple of lower picks makes sense if your team has needs at those positions. You can get a good player you can also afford to keep. I don't know enough about KC to know exactly what they need, but judging from last season, it looks like they need just about everything.

This is the same reason why it will be almost impossible for KC to trade the top pick. There is no point in trading up in this draft with the Chiefs when a team can get a player of equal value, for less money, later in the draft.

February 28, 2013  09:45 AM ET

The only credible speculation of the trade I can find is that the chiefs gave up a second round pick for him ( 34th) and possible a 2 or 3 pick next year.

If so, it is a fair trade for both sides.

February 28, 2013  09:58 AM ET

Nothing in this draft is a lock at the top. They could trade down, they could resign Albert and look to D-line since Dorsey is likely getting cut, or they could stay put and draft Eric Fisher, who has closed the gap of top o-lineman, instead of Joeckel.
This draft is gonna be pretty exciting in that who knows what anybody is going to do, since there doesn't really appear to be a lot of elite talent at the top.

February 28, 2013  10:08 AM ET
QUOTE(#5):

The draft is deep at certain positions (cornerback and safety for example), so trading out of the first pick for a couple of lower picks makes sense if your team has needs at those positions. You can get a good player you can also afford to keep. I don't know enough about KC to know exactly what they need, but judging from last season, it looks like they need just about everything.

They were picked by many to win division last year so talent is there. Losing makes everyone look bad but as we all know its not hard go from last to 1st in no time!! Look at Seahawks

February 28, 2013  11:52 AM ET
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The only credible speculation of the trade I can find is that the chiefs gave up a second round pick for him ( 34th) and possible a 2 or 3 pick next year.If so, it is a fair trade for both sides.

Very fair. And I believe the 2014 pick is conditional based on performance.

A win-win as far as I can tell.

February 28, 2013  11:53 AM ET
QUOTE(#9):

The only credible speculation of the trade I can find is that the chiefs gave up a second round pick for him ( 34th) and possible a 2 or 3 pick next year.If so, it is a fair trade for both sides.

Jay Glazer says it's the 34th overall pick and a conditional mid-rounder the following year. I believe he's the one who broke the story.

February 28, 2013  11:54 AM ET

Joeckel makes the most sense. As a rookie, his contract is subject to the salary caps now in place. Also, Albert's damaged goods with a back injury and IR just waiting to happen.

February 28, 2013  11:55 AM ET

Alex Smith had a running game at SF, and I don't see him lighting things up without that help. If Coach Andy decides to use a running game this year it'll be the first time. That situation doesn't add up to big success.

February 28, 2013  01:15 PM ET
QUOTE(#9):

The only credible speculation of the trade I can find is that the chiefs gave up a second round pick for him ( 34th) and possible a 2 or 3 pick next year. If so, it is a fair trade for both sides.

Right now it seems fair to me, and not because I am a 49er fan. This is what I expected to get for Smith. I said that a team would have to give up a 1st round pick or 2 / second round picks to get Smith.

The best team for the 49ers to get 2 / second round picks was from KC, they get the #34 pick which is only 3 picks behind the 49ers 1st round. If the 49ers wanted to they could probably use both those 2nd round picks and trade up and get a high 1st round pick. But I don't see that happening because the 49ers could lock up their 3 major positional needs in the first 2 rounds. Kansas City may even find someone that wants to trade up to get the #1 pick in the draft. KC could conceivably move down a few slots, pick up a draft choice and get a player they have their eyes on. Or they can take one of the top 3 offensive linemen; Joeckel, Fisher, or Warmack.

No one will know the winner of this trade till the end of next year. How will Alex adjust and play for Andy Reid / Kansas City?, will the 49ers draft a player with that pick #2 pick that ends up sitting on the bench for the 2013 season?

February 28, 2013  07:55 PM ET

Andy really like to play games with the draft- trading up, trading down, trading up and then trading that down for more picks, etc. Expect some fun time with the Chiefs' draft this year.

March 1, 2013  10:52 PM ET

That offensive line is terrible.

Re-sign Brandon Albert and move him to right tackle.

Then draft Luke Jockel.

 
March 1, 2013  10:52 PM ET
QUOTE(#18):

That offensive line is terrible.Re-sign Brandon Albert and move him to right tackle.Then draft Luke Joeckel.

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