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It's starting to look bad for these Dodgers pitchers

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08:16 AM ET 04.05 | Simple math suggested this was bound to happen. Although the surplus of arms is a source of reassurance for the club, it has hurled [ Aaron Harang, Chris Capuano and Ted Lilly] into baseball limbo. None of them can say with even the slightest degree of certainty the kind of roles they will be performing in, say, August -- or, for that matter, for which team they will be performing them. ... Harang is also concerned about how he takes an unusually long time to warm up before his starts. He has no idea how long it will take it to get loose in the bullpen. And [Don Mattingly] acknowledged he doesn't yet know how he will use him. "Aaron is a little bit more, for me, something we're going to have to learn as we go."

Los Angeles Times

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April 5, 2013  08:44 AM ET

Looking bad - teams should wish to look this bad....

April 5, 2013  09:10 AM ET

Yeah, pretty good when you have those guys hanging around as extra pitchers. I'm sure there will be inquiries into their availability at some point in the season.

April 5, 2013  09:27 AM ET

Look, the three named are a combined 104 years old. Did they think teams were going to call them in March to get one of these guys? Maybe in August.

You put a career starter in the bull pen and you get what you get.

April 5, 2013  09:30 AM ET

How did Mattingly ever get this job? For crying out loud, this guy is a hitting coach, not a manager of a real big league team. As for Harang, put him in those 9 to 2 games and tell him he's pitching for his baseball existance...that's it, plain and simple.
Donnie, go seek another line of work, please!

April 5, 2013  09:37 AM ET

How did they not trade one or more of these guys for a decent infielder? Even with Hanley Ramirez, they are suspect at 2B, SS, and 3B. Without him, they stink.

April 5, 2013  09:41 AM ET
QUOTE(#5):

How did they not trade one or more of these guys for a decent infielder? Even with Hanley Ramirez, they are suspect at 2B, SS, and 3B. Without him, they stink.

They'll be maximized for leverage as the trade deadline approaches.... until then - they have 7-8 bonifide starters. And if one or two go down... the organization will be hailed as geniuses....

April 5, 2013  09:46 AM ET

They tried to move all three back in the winter with no takers and now they have two choices, stick with them, or release them.

April 5, 2013  09:46 AM ET
QUOTE(#6):

They'll be maximized for leverage as the trade deadline approaches.... until then - they have 7-8 bonifide starters. And if one or two go down... the organization will be hailed as geniuses....

Ha! After their deal with Boston last year, "genius" isn't a moniker they're likely to get anytime soon.

April 5, 2013  10:02 AM ET
QUOTE(#8):

Ha! After their deal with Boston last year, "genius" isn't a moniker they're likely to get anytime soon.

It is if they get to the WS.....

April 5, 2013  10:06 AM ET
QUOTE(#9):

It is if they get to the WS.....

Nope. If they get to the WS, it will be because they bought a Championship. When they don't, it's because their front office are the Keystone Kops. Genius never enters the picture.

April 5, 2013  10:13 AM ET
QUOTE(#10):

Nope. If they get to the WS, it will be because they bought a Championship. When they don't, it's because their front office are the Keystone Kops. Genius never enters the picture.

Spoken like a true division rival.......

April 5, 2013  10:36 AM ET
QUOTE(#7):

They tried to move all three back in the winter with no takers and now they have two choices, stick with them, or release them.

That is the way I see it too. Trade deadline it could happen, but why did they think anyone was going to knock on their door for these guys in February?

April 5, 2013  11:34 AM ET
QUOTE(#4):

How did Mattingly ever get this job? For crying out loud, this guy is a hitting coach, not a manager of a real big league team. As for Harang, put him in those 9 to 2 games and tell him he's pitching for his baseball existance...that's it, plain and simple. Donnie, go seek another line of work, please!

Agreed < Been A Dodger fan for over 30 yrs and Mattingly has to be the worst manager I have seen in the organization . The guy constantly gets out managed by the opposition especially in the late innings when it matters most . Offseason priorities next year - bring in Larussa as our new skipper , Friedman from Tampa bay as the GM . and add a good hitting second baseman.

April 5, 2013  12:19 PM ET
QUOTE(#10):

Nope. If they get to the WS, it will be because they bought a Championship. When they don't, it's because their front office are the Keystone Kops. Genius never enters the picture.

^^^^^

April 5, 2013  12:19 PM ET

5 days into the season!!!!

April 5, 2013  01:02 PM ET
QUOTE(#7):

They tried to move all three back in the winter with no takers and now they have two choices, stick with them, or release them.

the dodgers may need to trade the 3 extra pitchers or,, just release them,
another think it could be done, leave them in their roster and expect them to help up with the albastros games from beckett, lets not forget the pitching rotation/ and bullpen will need to feed off from the pitching coach, as far at till now the pitching coach appears to be on vacation, because what else is the problem here? we know pitchers aren't in full motion but,,,the pitching coach should do his job!!

April 5, 2013  01:04 PM ET
QUOTE(#5):

How did they not trade one or more of these guys for a decent infielder? Even with Hanley Ramirez, they are suspect at 2B, SS, and 3B. Without him, they stink.

the dodgers weak area is not much their hitters or so it appears to look like that, rather their pitching coach would need to do some research,,but the dodgers blue patience could be running thin,,,,

April 5, 2013  01:25 PM ET
QUOTE(#13):

Agreed < Been A Dodger fan for over 30 yrs and Mattingly has to be the worst manager I have seen in the organization . The guy constantly gets out managed by the opposition especially in the late innings when it matters most . Offseason priorities next year - bring in Larussa as our new skipper , Friedman from Tampa bay as the GM . and add a good hitting second baseman.

I don't see how bringing in a 70-yr old Tony Larussa is the long-term solution. In a few years you're going to have to look for another manager again. And no chance on getting Friedman from Tampa unless you give him more than just a GM title.

April 5, 2013  02:52 PM ET
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I don't see how bringing in a 70-yr old Tony Larussa is the long-term solution. In a few years you're going to have to look for another manager again. And no chance on getting Friedman from Tampa unless you give him more than just a GM title.

Dodgers are in WIN NOW mode , Larussa is a proven winner that would be enticed with the right amount of money > Same with Friedman , You double his salary and give him the power and unlimited financial resources and yes he can and will jump ship .

 
April 5, 2013  03:27 PM ET

These three pitchers serve two very imporatnt roles. 1. Insurance against an injury, 2. trade material to continue to restock their farm system. Two of them in the pen is not a problem as their pen is loaded with five other very talented guys and they have Zach Lee and Steven Fife wating in the minors should they need him. Overall the Dodgers are the most stacked team in the bigs when it comes to pitching.
Anyone who knows anything about baseball knows that every year teams that could contend lose their edge when one or two of their staters goes down. All three of these guys can step up and help just about any major league club out there. The Dodgers are very well positioned to defend against that possibility for themselves, as well as bring about some good prospects coming from a team that is fighting for a playoff spot and is desperate for a healthy, eager CAP, Lilly, or Harang. Kasten is a very smart guy and knows how to play long ball. The season goes on for 6 months, I predict this move will play out as one of the smarter moves we've seen in a while.
No doubt they had trades offred in the off season, but better to wait until a team is really hungry and then you raise the price of dinner.

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