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08:16 AM ET 04.16 | Although Mark Helfrich may have Oregon pointed in the right direction, the Ducks' past may catch up to him a bit. The University of Oregon has agreed that its football coaches committed at least one major violation related to the NCAA's ongoing investigation into the Ducks' recruiting practices from 2008 to 2011. As a result, the university has proposed to self-impose a two-year probation for the football program and a reduction of one scholarship for each of the next three seasons. ... The next step for the Ducks is to appear before the NCAA's committee on infractions sometime this year; the committee will have the final ruling on the recruiting violations and penalties.

The Oregonian

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April 16, 2013  08:23 AM ET

Now we know why Chip Kelly is now at the Eagles -- the same reason that Pete Carroll is at Seattle.

April 16, 2013  08:26 AM ET

BTW, the proposed sanctions at this point is just public bargaining. Somehow, I think that "one scholarship per year" for three years might not cut it, given the NCAA's history. They've decided that's the best way to punish a program (e.g. Miami in the 90s, Bama ten years ago, and USC and Penn State now).

April 16, 2013  09:09 AM ET
QUOTE(#2):

BTW, the proposed sanctions at this point is just public bargaining. Somehow, I think that "one scholarship per year" for three years might not cut it, given the NCAA's history. They've decided that's the best way to punish a program (e.g. Miami in the 90s, Bama ten years ago, and USC and Penn State now).

I read that part and was...wow...a whole one scholarship per year for three years. LOL

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April 16, 2013  09:10 AM ET
QUOTE(#2):

BTW, the proposed sanctions at this point is just public bargaining. Somehow, I think that "one scholarship per year" for three years might not cut it, given the NCAA's history. They've decided that's the best way to punish a program (e.g. Miami in the 90s, Bama ten years ago, and USC and Penn State now).

I would tend to agree, one scholarship per year IS NOT a punishment. And yeah we see why Pete and Chip are in both in the NFL.

April 16, 2013  09:18 AM ET
QUOTE(#4):

What a shocker...Cant believe they only have 1 MAJOR penalty

That's all they have 'fessed up to at this point.

NCAA will find more....this might get to 1.5 Scholly's a year...

April 16, 2013  09:58 AM ET
QUOTE(#1):

Now we know why Chip Kelly is now at the Eagles -- the same reason that Pete Carroll is at Seattle.

LMFAO, Yeah that might be true, but the "main" reason why Kelly and Carroll sighed with an NFL team, is because of the millions of dollars they get every years!!!

April 16, 2013  10:04 AM ET
QUOTE(#6):

That's all they have 'fessed up to at this point.NCAA will find more....this might get to 1.5 Scholly's a year...

Good point and the NCAA might find more on Oregon, but what is the at "least one major violation"?? is this article talking about??? Is it the Willie Lyles case??

April 16, 2013  10:07 AM ET
QUOTE(#4):

What a shocker...Cant believe they only have 1 MAJOR penalty

and the only fessing up was to an "unintentional violation"

The interesting thing is that the ncaa has said there was no LOIC, but the lessor Failure to Monitor

April 16, 2013  10:08 AM ET
QUOTE(#8):

Good point and the NCAA might find more on Oregon, but what is the at "least one major violation"?? is this article talking about??? Is it the Willie Lyles case??

more details...

???There were underlying major violations coupled with failure to monitor violations involving the head coach (2009 through 2011) and the athletics department (2008-2011),??? NCAA enforcement staff wrote in the report. ???While the violations were not intentional in nature, coaches and administrators of a sports program at an NCAA member institution have an obligation to ensure that the activities being engaged in comply with NCAA legislation.???

The report also outlines two crucial points for the Ducks. First, NCAA enforcement staff said they had ???no finding of lack of institutional control and no finding of unethical conduct.??? That could prove critical when it comes time to dish out punishment.

Second, the report says the school could face penalties under the ???repeat violator??? clause of the NCAA rules. The UO last had a major infraction in 2004; since some of the alleged violations happened within five years of that date, the NCAA could impose stiffer penalties.

The report also focuses heavily on Will Lyles. Lyles ran a recruiting service and has widely been reported to be at the center of the football scandal.

???At the center of many of the violations is Will Lyles, a recruiting/scouting service provider who became a representative of the institution???s athletic interests in May 2008,??? the summary disposition draft says. Lyles has been widely reported to be involved with the violations, but this report goes into detail about his involvement.

April 16, 2013  10:11 AM ET

Oh bull ph uckin ****. Now the ncaa is going to let the schools punish themselves??? One scholly a year for 3??? If they let that crap stand, I am going duck hunting. Seriously.

April 16, 2013  10:19 AM ET
QUOTE(#11):

Oh bull ph uckin ****. Now the ncaa is going to let the schools punish themselves??? One scholly a year for 3??? If they let that crap stand, I am going duck hunting. Seriously.

LOL....well done sir.

April 16, 2013  10:25 AM ET
QUOTE(#11):

Oh bull ph uckin ****. Now the ncaa is going to let the schools punish themselves??? One scholly a year for 3??? If they let that crap stand, I am going duck hunting. Seriously.

Well, it seems every team proposes their own punishment and the NCAA usually does not accept that. We did in the Means case and it was something like a total of 9 scholarships. They didn't accept that. I think USC proposed their penalties and the NCAA didn't think it was enough.

Ohio State proposed their penalties, but I'm not sure they were completely accepted, either.

April 16, 2013  10:31 AM ET

Shocked I tell you... SHOCKED!

April 16, 2013  10:32 AM ET

I'll be highly surprised if they don't get at least a one year bowl ban...and like everyone else here, I laughed when I heard they suggested the loss of ONE scholarship per year for three years. What a farce.

And yeah, now we know why Chip Kelly is in the NFL. Just like Pete Carroll, bolting the program with his tail between his legs with the NCAA breathing down his neck.

April 16, 2013  10:38 AM ET
QUOTE(#1):

Now we know why Chip Kelly is now at the Eagles -- the same reason that Pete Carroll is at Seattle.

Spot on. And this will continue at every major "football school" until they start slapping them with major fines, which of course is counter productive. The NCAA is a profit based system and they will always figure out a way to field the best teams for TV and paying the "student athletes" won't happen because that cuts into profits.

April 16, 2013  10:41 AM ET
QUOTE(#11):

Oh bull ph uckin ****. Now the ncaa is going to let the schools punish themselves??? One scholly a year for 3??? If they let that crap stand, I am going duck hunting. Seriously.

Totally understand your concerns, sir. But it is early, these are preliminary statements and speculation of potential outcomes, so lots more to come.


I betcha the good folks at da U are watching this situation with extreme interest...

April 16, 2013  10:50 AM ET
QUOTE(#17):

Totally understand your concerns, sir. But it is early, these are preliminary statements and speculation of potential outcomes, so lots more to come. I betcha the good folks at da U are watching this situation with extreme interest...

GR, good comment!!! This article was put up to get us fans all stirred up!! We don't know the whole story as of yet!!

April 16, 2013  10:53 AM ET
QUOTE(#17):

Totally understand your concerns, sir. But it is early, these are preliminary statements and speculation of potential outcomes, so lots more to come. I betcha the good folks at da U are watching this situation with extreme interest...

lotta schools watching this with interest...

 
April 16, 2013  10:54 AM ET
QUOTE(#10):

more details...???There were underlying major violations coupled with failure to monitor violations involving the head coach (2009 through 2011) and the athletics department (2008-2011),??? NCAA enforcement staff wrote in the report. ???While the violations were not intentional in nature, coaches and administrators of a sports program at an NCAA member institution have an obligation to ensure that the activities being engaged in comply with NCAA legislation.???The report also outlines two crucial points for the Ducks. First, NCAA enforcement staff said they had ???no finding of lack of institutional control and no finding of unethical conduct.??? That could prove critical when it comes time to dish out punishment. Second, the report says the school could face penalties under the ???repeat violator??? clause of the NCAA rules. The UO last had a major infraction in 2004; since some of the alleged violations happened within five years of that date, the NCAA could impose stiffer penalties. The report also focuses heavily on Will Lyles. Lyles ran a recruiting service and has widely been reported to be at the center of the football scandal. ???At the center of many of the violations is Will Lyles, a recruiting/scouting service provider who became a representative of the institution???s athletic interests in May 2008,??? the summary disposition draft says. Lyles has been widely reported to be involved with the violations, but this report goes into detail about his involvement.

Thanks for the info!!! :-)

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