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07:08 AM ET 04.24 | Merely the words "Dr. James Andrews" are enough to unnerve a fan base. Let's stipulate right now that the Orioles are being open and honest about the Dylan Bundy situation and that there's no reason -- at least not yet -- to get all hot and bothered over the nagging forearm soreness that has prompted him to seek a second medical opinion from famed orthopedic surgeon Dr. James Andrews. Okay, now that we've established that, go ahead and panic. Bundy is a very tough kid. ... [If] he's saying that there's still something going on with his arm after throwing a relatively low-inpact, flat-ground session at the Orioles' extended spring training facility in Florida, it's not unreasonable to be concerned that the Orioles' top pitching prospect may be looking at some serious down time.

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April 24, 2013  07:38 AM ET

Not good.

April 24, 2013  09:08 AM ET

Same story different pitcher . Young fireball pitcher blows out arm within first year or 2 .. I truly question the offseason and in-season training programs for MLB. These guys now a days can't go over 100 pitches without concern.

April 24, 2013  09:30 AM ET

for every young pitcher that has major arm issues there are many more that goes through his career with out any. Problem is some teams that has been mired in the bottom of their division. When they draft and develope this pitcher who has an outstanding fastball, those teams use that pitcher with rest of staff. they don,t control his pitch count or innigs for the season. Example Strassburg had a fit because Washington shut him down after 180 innings. even through post season.

April 24, 2013  09:31 AM ET

All that long toss coming back to haunt him?

April 24, 2013  09:57 AM ET

Hello Tommy John surgery. See you in July, 2014 kid.

April 24, 2013  10:00 AM ET
QUOTE(#2):

Same story different pitcher . Young fireball pitcher blows out arm within first year or 2 .. I truly question the offseason and in-season training programs for MLB. These guys now a days can't go over 100 pitches without concern.

With some guys you could say that, however Bundy does alot of old school training like throwing long toss frequently on his off days to condition his arm. There was a really insightful SI article about him last year. The basic problem, thow a baseball isn't a natural motion for a shoulder or elbow to endure. Some guys are more fortunate than others.

April 24, 2013  10:20 AM ET
QUOTE(#5):

Hello Tommy John surgery. See you in July, 2014 kid.

And 150 Innings in 2015.

April 24, 2013  10:39 AM ET
QUOTE(#3):

for every young pitcher that has major arm issues there are many more that goes through his career with out any. Problem is some teams that has been mired in the bottom of their division. When they draft and develope this pitcher who has an outstanding fastball, those teams use that pitcher with rest of staff. they don,t control his pitch count or innigs for the season. Example Strassburg had a fit because Washington shut him down after 180 innings. even through post season.

This trend has been going on for a long time. In the 60s 70s and before there were fewer injuries for all position players. And do NOT tell me these guy throw harder or better than a Gibson or a Carlton or Drysdale or those guys. A Guidry slider was/is as good as it gets and he weighed in around 160 lbs.

Same with hitters, guys are pulling hamstrings and tweaking things all the time.

With the weights and strength programs today it often throws the human body out of balance. There are parts, tendons bone and the like that do not increase in size or strength.

April 24, 2013  11:23 AM ET
QUOTE(#8):

This trend has been going on for a long time. In the 60s 70s and before there were fewer injuries for all position players. And do NOT tell me these guy throw harder or better than a Gibson or a Carlton or Drysdale or those guys. A Guidry slider was/is as good as it gets and he weighed in around 160 lbs.Same with hitters, guys are pulling hamstrings and tweaking things all the time.With the weights and strength programs today it often throws the human body out of balance. There are parts, tendons bone and the like that do not increase in size or strength.

Good point... I doubt if players like Babe Ruth spent their off-seasons in the gym or training.

April 24, 2013  11:24 AM ET
QUOTE(#8):

This trend has been going on for a long time. In the 60s 70s and before there were fewer injuries for all position players. And do NOT tell me these guy throw harder or better than a Gibson or a Carlton or Drysdale or those guys. A Guidry slider was/is as good as it gets and he weighed in around 160 lbs.Same with hitters, guys are pulling hamstrings and tweaking things all the time.With the weights and strength programs today it often throws the human body out of balance. There are parts, tendons bone and the like that do not increase in size or strength.

Agree totally. The working out and the PEDs maybe not as great as these guys think

April 24, 2013  11:43 AM ET
QUOTE(#5):

Hello Tommy John surgery. See you in July, 2014 kid.

and here we go again,,,,

April 24, 2013  12:11 PM ET
QUOTE(#2):

Same story different pitcher . Young fireball pitcher blows out arm within first year or 2 .. I truly question the offseason and in-season training programs for MLB. These guys now a days can't go over 100 pitches without concern.

the rookie pitchers DO need to endurance their arm and shoulder in order to be able to perform without the worried or concern about the rookie pitchers arms,,,

April 24, 2013  12:48 PM ET
QUOTE(#9):

Good point... I doubt if players like Babe Ruth spent their off-seasons in the gym or training.

Honestly, maybe working out and throwing and stuff in the off season is not a good idea. Sparky lyle would drop baseball completely when the season was over, throw as hard as he could first day of spring training, be sore as he## for a few days and then throw hard slider after hard slider game after game.

Look. Lifting weights does not work if you do it every day. You let the muscle rest, then work it a day or two later. Maybe they need extended rest to heal and get stronger. That Tommy John surgery works partly because you DON"T pitch for a year.

April 24, 2013  01:06 PM ET
QUOTE(#9):

Good point... I doubt if players like Babe Ruth spent their off-seasons in the gym or training.

I don't..................if you substitute bar for gym and drinking for training. ;p

April 24, 2013  06:55 PM ET

This is the guy who swore by all those long toss sessions he did in training. He was so sure his method worked for him, and the Orioles did not prevent it. So now, a top prospect of theirs is likely going to the disabled list. If it's Tommy John surgery, which is what Dr. James Andrews does, then he's out for over a year. Also, there is nothing to indicate that he'll ever be the same again. The Nationals got it right with Strasburg. Rest Rest Rest, innings limit, shutdown. (Yes, SS is 1-4, but is healthy, has a low ERA, and will help the Nationals all season long. Bundy won't).

 
April 25, 2013  09:48 AM ET
QUOTE(#15):

This is the guy who swore by all those long toss sessions he did in training. He was so sure his method worked for him, and the Orioles did not prevent it. So now, a top prospect of theirs is likely going to the disabled list. If it's Tommy John surgery, which is what Dr. James Andrews does, then he's out for over a year. Also, there is nothing to indicate that he'll ever be the same again. The Nationals got it right with Strasburg. Rest Rest Rest, innings limit, shutdown. (Yes, SS is 1-4, but is healthy, has a low ERA, and will help the Nationals all season long. Bundy won't).

Sooo there is nothing to indicate Bundy will ever be the same if he has to have TJ surgery, yet you compare him to Stasburg who has already had it and by most accounts is nearly the same pitcher. Which one is it? TJ surgery recovery rates now are outstanding. This will probably just be a bump in the road for Bundy, a very unfortunate one though just a bump nonetheless.

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