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Kurt Busch Takes V8 Supercar For Spin In Austin

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06:20 PM ET 04.24 | NASCAR Sprint Cup Series driver Kurt Busch climbed into a ride of a different kind on Tuesday as part of a media event to promote the V8 Supercars Series race May 17-19 at Circuit of the Americas in Austin, Texas. As part of the promotion, Busch made a 20-minute run around the road course in a V8 Supercar, while Supercar driver James Courtney took Busch's No. 78 Furniture Row Racing Chevrolet NASCAR Sprint Cup car for a spin. "It was sure a thrill to get into a car that I have watched and admired for many years during all those Supercar road races," Busch said. "It was also a little weird driving the Supercar and watching my car stretch its legs down the straightaway." Before getting into the Supercar, though, Busch acclimated himself with the track by driving his familiar ride, his Sprint Cup car. "I had a blast driving my car on the road course and even more of a blast in the V8 Supercar," Busch said. "The Circuit of The Americas is an awesome track with a lot of interesting and fun turns." When it came time to climb into the V8 Supercar, Busch had a few things to get used to. Opening a door to get into the car, as opposed to climbing in the window, was the easy part. Busch had to get used to a car with the steering wheel on the right side and the shifter to his left.

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April 24, 2013  11:03 PM ET

The biggest penalties in Nascar history just came down the pipe.. and this is what we get??.. A lame thread about the elder Yoda-ear Busch and his spin in a v-8 'supercar'??.. WHO CARES

April 24, 2013  11:06 PM ET

cheat or not. I dont trust nascar. But if gibbs was cheating, they need to learn from hendrick. Also my man who worships johnson, (6 time) in your book, you preached that last year, come up with something different. lol if you get mad about this, you know who you are. But yeah, Gibbs just needs to learn how to cheat and not get caught like hendrick(if thats possible). Personally I call bs on it all. I don't trust france or helton a bit. I am glad my man harvick finally gets a piece of that (cheating equipment) next year. Damn even danica can stay with 3 laps down with it. Poor girl.

April 24, 2013  11:08 PM ET

50 points imo is very extreme with the new points system. wow

April 24, 2013  11:10 PM ET
QUOTE(#2):

cheat or not. I dont trust nascar. But if gibbs was cheating, they need to learn from hendrick. Also my man who worships johnson, (6 time) in your book, you preached that last year, come up with something different. lol if you get mad about this, you know who you are. But yeah, Gibbs just needs to learn how to cheat and not get caught like hendrick(if thats possible). Personally I call bs on it all. I don't trust france or helton a bit. I am glad my man harvick finally gets a piece of that (cheating equipment) next year. Damn even danica can stay with 3 laps down with it. Poor girl.

If she didnt have that it would be terrible. At least she has that to stay 3-4 laps down and let people wreck out to post a solid 27th place finish and get people saying what a solid finish lol except dega and daytona where she could be pushed higher.

April 25, 2013  11:04 AM ET
QUOTE(#2):

cheat or not. I dont trust nascar. But if gibbs was cheating, they need to learn from hendrick. Also my man who worships johnson, (6 time) in your book, you preached that last year, come up with something different. lol if you get mad about this, you know who you are. But yeah, Gibbs just needs to learn how to cheat and not get caught like hendrick(if thats possible). Personally I call bs on it all. I don't trust france or helton a bit. I am glad my man harvick finally gets a piece of that (cheating equipment) next year. Damn even danica can stay with 3 laps down with it. Poor girl.

Toyoda has already issued a statement the whole thing is their fault not Gibbs. So to me that means the Toyoda teams are getting crate engines from TRD and can't do much to them beyond connect them up in the car. It will be interesting to see where the appeal process goes from here, since it looks like Toyoda is more than willing to take the hit, and probably will pay all financial restitution. The appeal is likely dead at the panel level, but there is still the final appeal to the former GM executive, who is already likely to hear the Ford appeal with Penseke. Chevy got off on their last penalty with JJ last year, let's see what happens with the other two car makes.

Also to put this in perspective, the offending part was about 2.5 grams underweight, or about the same weight as 2 cotton balls.

April 25, 2013  03:43 PM ET
QUOTE(#5):

Toyoda has already issued a statement the whole thing is their fault not Gibbs. So to me that means the Toyoda teams are getting crate engines from TRD and can't do much to them beyond connect them up in the car. It will be interesting to see where the appeal process goes from here, since it looks like Toyoda is more than willing to take the hit, and probably will pay all financial restitution. The appeal is likely dead at the panel level, but there is still the final appeal to the former GM executive, who is already likely to hear the Ford appeal with Penseke. Chevy got off on their last penalty with JJ last year, let's see what happens with the other two car makes.Also to put this in perspective, the offending part was about 2.5 grams underweight, or about the same weight as 2 cotton balls.

First off who's to say that valve stem did or did not create an unfair advantage? seems like you'd need some serious (expensive) testing to figure that out. The obvious problem being if they can blame someone else and get to keep the results...... mayhem breaks out.

April 25, 2013  05:38 PM ET
QUOTE(#6):

First off who's to say that valve stem did or did not create an unfair advantage? seems like you'd need some serious (expensive) testing to figure that out. The obvious problem being if they can blame someone else and get to keep the results...... mayhem breaks out.

Not quite sure what you mean by the last part of your comment, but I agree that it would be hard to tell if it would be a comparative advantage. In fact I would think it might be a disadvantage because of the possibility of the part either failing, or throwing the timing of the engine off. But then again I'm not an engineer and not really a gearhead so I could be wrong.

April 25, 2013  07:59 PM ET
QUOTE(#7):

Not quite sure what you mean by the last part of your comment, but I agree that it would be hard to tell if it would be a comparative advantage. In fact I would think it might be a disadvantage because of the possibility of the part either failing, or throwing the timing of the engine off. But then again I'm not an engineer and not really a gearhead so I could be wrong.

Agreed, it 'could' be more of a disadvantage.
My point was if they were to be allowed to keep the points and just blame it on a engine maker or whomever then everyone would do the same.
Nascar sort of put themselves up against a wall here, they have no choice but to discipline the #20 team or everyone will try to get away with the same.

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April 26, 2013  09:53 AM ET
QUOTE(#9):

I find it equally hard to believe that NASCAR actually has a rule that specs out how much a connecting rod must weigh. It's micro-management like this that is turning fans away in droves.

Obviously they do, but good luck finding it in the rulebook, or actually finding a rulebook. All the major sports have their rulebooks available to the public (gasp! Transparency!) but NASCAR's is apparently super secret.

April 26, 2013  10:33 AM ET
QUOTE(#2):

Also my man who worships johnson, (6 time) in your book, you preached that last year, come up with something different. lol if you get mad about this, you know who you are.

Why on earth would I get mad about that? Do you have me confused with somebody else?

6 Time soon come.

April 26, 2013  02:51 PM ET
QUOTE(#9):

I find it equally hard to believe that NASCAR actually has a rule that specs out how much a connecting rod must weigh. It's micro-management like this that is turning fans away in droves.

Wiser words have yet to be written or spoken.. exactly the way ALOT of Nascar fans feel

April 26, 2013  04:42 PM ET
QUOTE(#1):

The biggest penalties in Nascar history just came down the pipe.. and this is what we get??.. A lame thread about the elder Yoda-ear Busch and his spin in a v-8 'supercar'??.. WHO CARES

I dunno, when Gordo and Montoya swapped F1 and NASCAR rides it was kind of interesting.

Ditto for Tony Stewart and Lewis Hamilton.

Sure this was only V8 Supercars. But they're kind of cool to watch occasionally on Speed so I'm not too troubled by this story.

April 27, 2013  04:52 PM ET
QUOTE(#5):

Toyoda has already issued a statement the whole thing is their fault not Gibbs. So to me that means the Toyoda teams are getting crate engines from TRD and can't do much to them beyond connect them up in the car. It will be interesting to see where the appeal process goes from here, since it looks like Toyoda is more than willing to take the hit, and probably will pay all financial restitution. The appeal is likely dead at the panel level, but there is still the final appeal to the former GM executive, who is already likely to hear the Ford appeal with Penseke. Chevy got off on their last penalty with JJ last year, let's see what happens with the other two car makes.Also to put this in perspective, the offending part was about 2.5 grams underweight, or about the same weight as 2 cotton balls.

About the weight of a shiny new penny -- who ever was matching up the rods must have been distracted ... maybe Ms. Toyoda walked by and they lost concentration ...

I think you are right -- JGR uses TURD works motors ...

April 27, 2013  04:58 PM ET
QUOTE(#9):

I have a hard time believing that having one connecting rod that weighed .0048% less than it should have would give the engine any kind of competitive advantage. Seems to me that if anything it would affect the balance of the engine and possibly lead to crank damage given the RPM's these motors are spinning.I find it equally hard to believe that NASCAR actually has a rule that specs out how much a connecting rod must weigh. It's micro-management like this that is turning fans away in droves.

I think the issue was is that connecting rods weight must be 525 grams or more -- the rod was light by approximately the weight of a penny!! What the hell ever happened to run-what-ya'-brung?!!

April 27, 2013  05:01 PM ET
QUOTE(#14):

I dunno, when Gordo and Montoya swapped F1 and NASCAR rides it was kind of interesting.Ditto for Tony Stewart and Lewis Hamilton.Sure this was only V8 Supercars. But they're kind of cool to watch occasionally on Speed so I'm not too troubled by this story.

It's just a matter of time before NASCAR tackles the Circuit of the Americas. I have watched a few races there and that track is pretty awesome !!

April 27, 2013  07:24 PM ET
QUOTE(#5):

Toyoda has already issued a statement the whole thing is their fault not Gibbs. So to me that means the Toyoda teams are getting crate engines from TRD and can't do much to them beyond connect them up in the car. It will be interesting to see where the appeal process goes from here, since it looks like Toyoda is more than willing to take the hit, and probably will pay all financial restitution. The appeal is likely dead at the panel level, but there is still the final appeal to the former GM executive, who is already likely to hear the Ford appeal with Penseke. Chevy got off on their last penalty with JJ last year, let's see what happens with the other two car makes.Also to put this in perspective, the offending part was about 2.5 grams underweight, or about the same weight as 2 cotton balls.

Here's the other issue -- you have to ask yourself how many other TURD built engines that are already out there that may have the same problem ... it would really suck if one of those were to win and find the same damn thing wrong ...

April 27, 2013  07:32 PM ET
QUOTE(#14):

I dunno, when Gordo and Montoya swapped F1 and NASCAR rides it was kind of interesting.Ditto for Tony Stewart and Lewis Hamilton.Sure this was only V8 Supercars. But they're kind of cool to watch occasionally on Speed so I'm not too troubled by this story.

HMMMMM.. don't remember ANY Nascar penalties being handed down at the time those events were taking place a few years back either.. the points and fines handed out by Nascar to the 17 team seems to be the talk this week.. you would have thought there would be a thread about that instead of a 20-minute run around the road course in a V8 Supercar.. but who knows whats the thinking behind some of the threads posted on this site??

April 27, 2013  07:38 PM ET
QUOTE(#16):

It's just a matter of time before NASCAR tackles the Circuit of the Americas. I have watched a few races there and that track is pretty awesome !!

Agree.. Circuit of the Americas is a NICE track.. watched the F-1 race last year and they put on quite a show.. Nascar would be smart to start racing there.. but knowing the suits in the suites who make the decisions.. that will never happen

 
April 27, 2013  08:12 PM ET
QUOTE(#14):

I think you are right -- JGR uses TURD works motors ...

They have since the beginning of last season. Supposedly it was to "help solve" their engine issues since JGR blew more engines than the rest of the Toyoda teams combined, but I would also argue they won more races as well so really where was the issue.

I personally thought the switch was on Toyoda orders because JGR was the top team and winning so many races, compared to the other Toyodas. And part of those orders might be the teams can't teardown the engines given to them by TRD, meaning Gibbs and the others don't know the weights of the parts. TRD has already recalled 3 engines from Michael Waltrip Racing fearing a similar weight discrepancy.

And for those asking "Why would TRD do that?" I would say so that a team with the resources like JGR don't take all the secrets they learn from the TRD motors and apply them to their own in-house motor program.

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